How much does a 1275 engine weigh, roughly?

Post by **JimK** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:45 pm

Can't find that piece of information anywhere, and I want to know if two blokes could lift it into and out of an estate car boot.

Ta.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:53 pm

Easily !! But better to get it on a slab of thickish plywood - one end on the car floor - and then lift and slide the slab into the car. Works best on a slope of course !! My daughter and I managed this ok with a Mini unit which weighs 3 cwt. 1275 engine on it's own - 2 cwt tops. With head and flywheel removed I can (just) get a 1275 engine up from the floor on to the bench.

Post by **JimK** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:52 pm

cwt? What's one of those then? I'm under 40...

*googles* Ahhh, 50kg or so. So a bare engine is about 100kg.

The gangplank tip is a good one, I'll see what I can find.

Post by **alex_holden** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:03 pm

bmcecosse wrote:My daughter and I managed this ok

You must breed 'em strong up in Ecosseland!

Post by **JimK** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:05 pm

I've seen some strapping lasses in Pennine Lancashire, too...

Post by **Packedup** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:07 pm

Took 2 people to get a 1275 short engine into the boot of a 4 door Minor, and with a bit of luck and ingenuity took 2 people to get a complete 948 lump on the back seat of the same car.

So 2 people and an estate car should be easy! And if you have an old rear seat or mattress getting it back out is even easier ;)

Post by **bmcecosse** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:34 pm

We used principle of levers -not brute strength!

Post by **plastic_orange** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:18 pm

Short block is a 1 person lift, so a full engine is an easy lift for 2 - just protect what you are laying it on as has been suggested, and make sure it doesn't fall over.

Pete

Post by **Axolotl** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:50 am

The Haynes manual has a photo of two men carrying the engine (sans gearbox), with the caption: "Although the engine is fairly heavy it is not difficult to carry short distances. In this case it was carried up four flights of steps to the authors workshop."

Mind you, that was in the days before 'elf 'n' safety, when men were men.

Post by **Peetee** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:29 am

I have a people mover with flat floor and no tailgate lip and moved a 1275 into a wheelbarrow on my own using a strong bag and plank as skids. To get it out of the barrow I used a rope halfway down an 8ft fence post with the end on the back of the peoplemover and lifted it, swung it, and lowered it down.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:05 pm

That's it - principle of levers !!

Post by **Peetee** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:13 pm

That's it - principle of levers

Yes, but I spoke in 'pictures' not 'words'

Post by **JimK** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:18 pm

This is starting to feel like an A-level Mechanics lesson...

Question 1 (10 marks):
If a man pushes a 100kg engine up a smooth plane p inclined at a%, using an inelastic lever of length b, how far from p will the pivot be placed for the man to move the engine 2 metres along p while only requiring 2 cups of tea?

Post by **bmcecosse** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:33 pm

100 Kg - that's 4 cwt - right ?? ie 4 sacks of coal - the man will not be moving it at all!!

Post by **Peetee** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:51 pm

while only requiring 2 cups of tea?

WHOA hold it right there! I don't do a thing until my 3rd mug!

Post by **JimK** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:00 pm

bmcecosse wrote:100 Kg - that's 4 cwt - right ?? ie 4 sacks of coal - the man will not be moving it at all!!

I dug around and found that 1cwt is 112lb, or 50kg.

Post by **Axolotl** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:01 pm

1 cwt = 112 lbs = 1/20 of a ton (2,240 lbs).

50kg = 1/20 of a "Tonne" (1,000 kg or 2,200 lbs).

Post by **Kevin** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:59 pm

If you have to move it any distance to the car the easy way is to use a sack barrow.