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Postby sidsmith » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:34 pm

:o How much does a morris minor engine weigh, I ask this as i'm thinking of taking my engine and gearbox out during the winter for refurbing and tidying up the bulkhead etc. the other thing is i have a Hanson concrete garage and would the metal cross member that supports the roof be strong enough to take a block and tackle and lift the engine and gearbox out in one. your advice would be great.
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Postby phurn » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:49 pm

in my experience those roof supports are made of thin stuff so id be very nervous using it for anythign even remotely heavy.
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Postby Peetee » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:05 pm

From what I have seen of my bro's concrete garage I would say they are no where near strong enough. The bars are designed to take tension loads and so the section doesn't need to be that great.
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Postby linearaudio » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:18 pm

Doesn't stop you lashing something sturdier to the crossbeam, as long as the walls don't bow out! I wouldn't have any qualms about using my mums garage in that manner! Engine weight, someone??
I would guess at about 4 cwt with the box. (Box by itself is a lightweight).
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Postby LouiseM » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:39 pm

Engine weight, someone??


948cc - engine 245lb gearbox 35lb
1098cc - engine 252lb gearbox 44lb



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Postby Mog-nuts » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:43 pm

. (Box by itself is a lightweight).

Have you tried fitting one on your back?
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Postby linearaudio » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:07 pm

Mog-nuts wrote:. (Box by itself is a lightweight).

Have you tried fitting one on your back?

No, but i'm soon going to be doing that with a dolly overdrive box, wieghs twice as much, going into an alien environment, should be a giggle :D
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Postby phurn » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:09 pm

come remove my 924 box aswell if you want ;) weighs an insane amount what with it making up the rear diff aswell.
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Postby alanworland » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:44 pm

Why would you want a gearbox fitted to your back???!!!
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Postby phurn » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:08 pm

so you can drop down a ratio and get up hills better ;)
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Postby bmcecosse » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:09 pm

I'm surprised the 1098 box is that much heavier than a 948 box - I wonder why ? Sure that lighter weight is not maybe for an 803 box - with pudding stick ?
I wouldn't fancy a concrete beam - if you can put a steel pole across the garage that may be better - or just use a swing ?&
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Not my garage - just helping out!! The ratchet pull-lift device cost all of $6 Canadian ~ £3. Amazing bargain from Canadian Tire!
I would remove engine - and then gearbox , as two lifts.
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Postby Alec » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:47 pm

Hello Mungo,

when hanging things like block and tackle, the support not only has to be able to support the weight of item to be lifted (plus the block) but also the pull you exert when doing the lift.

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Postby Kevin » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:23 pm

You can always use an engine hoist.
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Postby sidsmith » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:08 pm

:P thanks everyone for your input, the problems solved, I take my car to my cousins who has a large garage at the bottom of his garden with an ample hoist, so that's it , it saves me from struggling.
cheers mungo. :D :D
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Postby bmcecosse » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:24 pm

Sounds ideal!
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