Morris Minor Owners Club

For the full update on this ,together with links to the actual new EU definition proposed please chcek out http://www.the-ace.org.uk.

Moderators please look at the article before deleting a spropoganda, even FHVBC are unhappy with the definition proposed.

Re legislation being introduced on a whim, it won't happen in the EU but it CAN happen we reported on this back in 2008 . http://www.the-ace.org.uk/dubai-bans-old-cars.html?searched=historic+banned&highlight=ajaxSearch_highlight+ajaxSearch_highlight1+ajaxSearch_highlight2 Again this shows our co...

Whilst we all know that some historic vehicles have a high annual mileage highlighting that point wouldn't assist the case for treating historic vehicles differently to other vehicles. That is why FBHVC made a statement back in 2007 that they could not support vehicles used more regularly . The cla...

I wish you all the best in your attempt to repeal a European law that has been in place 12 years now ;) :). Of course even that wouldn't be in place if it hadn't been lobbied for ,as the British National Type Approval (that was to come into being in 1977) was amended to allow a test for one off buil...

You are stating as fact that any definition ‘would’ become statute but where is the evidence to support this? The current EU definition of 'historic vehicle' has not passed into statute and FIVA are not pressing for their definition to be passed into statute either. They are suggesting that the def...

Lousie , what they put down as a statement of intent and what they actually do seem to be two different things. Look at these two articles we put up. "For example, the EU Commission have given indications that while they are happy to consider legislative exemptions for a reasonably small number...

But they are so few and car scattered that proposalscould mean you may not have enough spare mileage to drive to them ! LOL

Old info but the best I could find at short notice http://www.edie.net/news/news_story.asp?id=5979 Some member States already have restrictions on Historic vehicle usage ( Germany , Farnce and Austrai for certain) Monitored by having to apply in advance for a travel permit by the shortest route thee...

More info at


http://www.the-ace.org.uk/fiva-definiti ... he-eu.html

By virtue of the fact that the FIVA definition of Historic would pass into Statute that would become the definition by which VEL , and any laws governing Historic Status ( such as possible restictions on Emmission Zone cities as has already been seen in Germany )was defined. How many MM owners use t...

Unfortunately that is not the case . We currently have two classes of taxation, PLG and Historic. You have no choice about being put into Historic. If it is in Historic then the rules listed at teh start will apply. If you do not comply by being a regular user you woud not be accepted for Historic s...

FBHVC( who represent British Historic vehicles ) is part of FIVA. FIVA want ( and will get ) their rules as to what is a Classic adopted throughout Europe. FIVA do not allow daily driven cars to be classified Classics . FBHVC cut lose daily driven Classics over 2/3 years back so will not support tho...

The MOT tester isn't ( currently) interested in your , or anyone elses mods, he is there to check safety compliance. It's DVLA who are interested in vehicles identity and are backed up by VOSA tech as to what is acceptable and what isn't. However, we ( http://www.the-ace.org.uk) are aware that chang...

ANY structural modifications ie roof chop will mean IF/WHEN caught the car will need to go for BIVA test ( replacement for SVA). The rules ,in their current form have existed for over 26 years but are startingto be more rigidly enforced due to the ease of which mods can now be found. Over at ACE we ...

Hi, what about cars like the Triumph Spitfire. It has a separate chassis but the sills of the body are structural? Regards, Wal The sills are structural to the body but you can remove that body and put a 'kit' on with no testing as for the purposes of DVLA the identity lies in the chassis not the b...

Hi, Yes, thanks for the information and work that ACE are doing it’s very useful to have a summary of the background and clarifications. Although these rules have existed for 27 years there is some suspicion over “clarification” and “application” after 27 years! Why? If it’s fit for purpose use it ...

Hi, Yes, thanks for the information and work that ACE are doing it’s very useful to have a summary of the background and clarifications. Although these rules have existed for 27 years there is some suspicion over “clarification” and “application” after 27 years! Why? If it’s fit for purpose use it ...

As little more clarification Standard vehicle = entitled to reg Modified within 8 points system = entitled to reg Modified outside 8 points system= identity withdrawn if/when caught ..though you are supposed to notift DVLA on chnges to the Monococque. shown here :- http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motori...

The problem is that it is NOT proposed legislation. The DVLA rules have existed , in this form for 27 years ( when the Q plate was created) . All we have done is clarify the guidelines shown on Directgov into something bearing more resemblance to actual rules. We have more work to do on clarifying t...

Hi guys, Andy ( twincamman ) asked if a rep from ACE could pop over and give some clarification. You'll have to forgive me I haven't read all 4 pages as I've been at this solid ( along with the rest of the ACE team ) for the best part of 14 days and around 10 hours straight today . First off could I...