Disk brakes and local driving habits

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:01 pm

Ratbag wrote: Servoed discs however, raise the spectre of loss of braking advantage if the engine dies.

Eeeek! Is that right?

Post by **Dominic** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:27 pm

OI! I've been down south numerous times in the Mog

Post by **jonathon** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:38 pm

No Juliet,
You will only have less assistance in pedal operation ,your braking capacity will remain the same, but you will need to push the pedal down harder than with a servo working.

Post by **mal** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:14 pm

Nowt wrong with drums, it's just a matter of adapting your driving

a lot cheaper than adapting the car

and as you can guess, I live north of watford

Mal

Post by **Dominic** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:00 pm

Hear Hear Mal!

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:03 pm

cheers jonathon, you're my guardian angel

Post by **rayofleamington** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:06 pm

Servoed discs however, raise the spectre of loss of braking advantage if the engine dies.

Only if you have poor driving skill or a seized engine! If you keep the engine in gear when it cuts out you still have full servo action. Pretty much everyone who has driven a standard Minor will use engine braking, therefore this should be natural anyway.

In recent years, various people have tried to sue after having a crash in their new car because their engine stalled [on the grounds of 'almost complete loss of brakes'.] Modern cars have a stupidly large servo ratio so that if the engine is not running you can't stop the car - however you have to take come out of gear and into neutral to acheive this, so as far as I know nobody ever managed to 'successfully sue'.

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:09 pm

thank you very much for that info and explanation Ray - yer a dude

Post by **d_harris** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:03 pm

I thought you normalley got a servo'd pump or two after the engine stops

Post by **Willie** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:30 pm

Yes there is always a residual so that you get about four servoed actions
after switching off.

Post by **jonathon** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:45 pm

Willie please PM me if you require info on h/tanks

Ratbag · Post by **Ratbag** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:53 am

jonathon wrote:No Juliet,
You will only have less assistance in pedal operation ,your braking capacity will remain the same, but you will need to push the pedal down harder than with a servo working.

I thought I'd picked my words carefully enough, but one or two zoned in on 'loss of braking' !!

Post by **bigginger** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:59 am

It's a very common belief that you completely lose your brakes when the engine stops. Bizarre, but very common (sorry Widdlepuppy)

Post by **Judge** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:21 pm

bigginger wrote: (sorry Widdlepuppy)

You said that deliberately Andrew

Post by **Kevin** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:54 pm

OK I give up what is a Wibblepuppy ?
No problem with Andrews version as I have has a few of those

Post by **bigginger** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:12 pm

Judge wrote:
bigginger wrote: (sorry Widdlepuppy)
You said that deliberately Andrew

Darn! Red handed...

Post by **badfelafel** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:32 pm

Start with... am in sunny Scotland

When I got my little Moggie I thought eeeeeeek! How can I cope without my servo? But the more I drive my unservoed Moggy, the easier braking becomes... maybe I'll even change my ambition to fit a servo!

Post by **chrisd87** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:39 pm

I'm down south and I seem to manage just fine with non-servo drums. Just as long as your right leg is strong enough there's plenty of braking power. In fact one thing I like about non-servo brakes is that the pedal has much more 'feel' than a modern over-assisted braking system.
Having said that there aren't many hills round my way though so fade is less of an issue

Post by **badfelafel** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:43 pm

few hills here... more likely though to be a local "jakey" stepping out onto the road (a gentleman who spends his day drinking alcohol and wandering around the city centre - often quite friendly)

Post by **Kevin** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:15 pm

a local "jakey" stepping out onto the road

We have them down here as well only the nickname is not so pleasant.

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