£4.50p ROAD TAX

[PaulJohnson]

I thought it was too good to be true.
NEW LABOUR = NEW TAXS
I have just read in my classic car mag that there are plans for anyone who has a Pre-1973 car to pay a admin charge of £4.50 per year.
The question is "Why should drivers pay for details of there cars (Moggys) held on computer"
You just watch this space, It will be £4.50p to start with then Labour will put it up to £50 then it will be paying extra because our moggys dont come unders some stupid EU draft on cars.

[rayofleamington]

it's all part of the 'annual registration charge' proposal from the DVLA and you will be taxed whether the car is on the road or buried under the flower bed and SORNED.
There was another thread on it recently. There are even petition forms to print off and post in etc.. (I've collected a few sheets of signatures already, though as our government is well know for listening to the public and promptly doing the opposite so who knows if it will help)

[Cam]

It's on this website:

http://www.fbhvc.co.uk/

Print it, circulate it, get as many signatures as you can and send it in. We've got to at least TRY to stop them. If we do nothing then we can't complain when it happens can we??

[Alec]

Hello all,
I felt it was extremely mean minded to set 1973 as an arbitary cut off date, rather than the 20 year old or whatever it used to be. That must have accelerated the demise of quite a few post 1973 cars and brought in a miniscule amount of tax.

Alec

[Kevin]

The owners club has just sent out to branch contacts copys of the petition forms so they can be given out at branch meetings, work etc so that even those who dont use the web or have not heard through the press can add to the votes.

[d_harris]

mmm, perhaps I should print a couple off and take then to the Veterans L2B tomorrow!!!

As much as I like the current system mind, which means we save a pile of cash cos we drive older cars, I can't really see why there is any real reason why pre 73's shouldn't have to pay road tax. don't get me wrong mind, I'm not pro-road tax.

[d_harris]

Actually, could someone fax it to me????? I seem to be having PDF problems

[Dizzi141]

I can't see the petition on the link either! Could someone email me a copy please to dizzi141@hotmail .com?

[d_harris]

I'm just having issues with PDFs despite installation of actrobat and many others (dunno why)

[Kevin]

Lorna I have scanned you a copy

[d_harris]

you got one for me kevin? can you e-mail to*edit: e-mail removed*

[Kevin]

Have sent you a copy Dan, I have had to ask Lorna to email me direct as her one came back as undeliverable

[Dizzi141]

Thanks for that Kevin, sorry, I put the space in because of those spammers that search pages for any email address.

[Chris Morley]

As much as I like the current system mind, which means we save a pile of cash cos we drive older cars, I can't really see why there is any real reason why pre 73's shouldn't have to pay road tax.

I guess the reasoning behind the tax exemption (introduced by the last Tory Government) is that most pre-1973 cars spend very little time on the road and are mainly treated as 'garage queens'. In this case it would be grossly unfair to charge the same amount as a modern car which might do 20,000 miles a year and spend every second of it's existence on the public highway. Also, it could be argued that after 25 years of road tax the classic car has contributed enough to the road network.

I don't feel that the Government is doing me such a huge favour as it gets 17.5% VAT whenever I buy parts or have it repaired. Also my two old cars provide a fair amount of work for MOT examiners and specialists and almost all this expenditure stays within the UK. As for the £4.50, I wouldn't mind that so much if this was being classed as a reduced rate of tax. However this just seems to be another way of raising revenue. If it were to be used to hammer the large number of illegal cars on the road it wouldn't be so bad but I doubt that the government will actually do anything. In fact it's highly likely that in the near future the DVLA staff numbers will end up being cut by this government in it's war on the civil service. Good news for the E-Bay conmen!

[Multiphonikks]

IT seems in a way that we may be heading towards a US style system, where licences are renewed every year. (By this I mean NUMBER plate ones not driving ones!) I don't have a problem with that provided of course the fee is small and the related taxes are small too. It then of course does away with the whole "Tax Disc". If your car numberplate runs out it's pretty damned obvious to anyone behind or in front of you that you're Illegal.

The other thing to note here (and this is kind of a side to everything else) that in the US you can't buy a plate from a high street shop. You HAVE to buy your plates from the local DMV. They're pressed and it's very difficult to actually reproduce them. It may also do away with all these illegible plates on the roads...

[rayofleamington]

in the US you can't buy a plate from a high street shop. You HAVE to buy your plates from the local DMV. They're pressed and it's very difficult to actually reproduce them.

That system isn't just used by the Yanks - some of the more sensible countries in Europe have a system of controlled number plate issue, where you need your 'MOT' and insurance docs before you can register the car and the car reg plates clearly show the expiryr date.
We are moving well into that direction by stealth so yes, it may be what the Government is planning.