Morris mono-construction manual

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Morris mono-construction manual

Postby GavinL » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:08 am

I'm looking for a copy of the Minor section of the above to help with the rebuild of Vanessa - I've got the usual exploded diagrams in the likes of the Moss catalogue and a copy of the factory maintenance manual, but would like to be able to refer to the factory diagrams, and I am particularly interested in any details for jigs etc. for ensuring correct geometry when fitting new suspension mounts etc. I've searched the usual places (eBay, Abebooks, Amazon, etc) without success, so if anyone has a copy they are considering selling i'd be interested. Alternatively if anyone is able to scan and email me the relevant pages that would be great.

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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby philthehill » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:07 am

The only BMC body alignment jig for the Morris Minor I have ever seen was one for the bodywork forward of the damper mount cross member. It was bolted to the front damper mounts and if the body work was aligned correctly the front engine mount holes would also align. It was a well braced piece of equipment.

Whilst not for the Minor 1000 but to give some idea of what is required - this is a Morris Mono Construction Manual
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Morris-Mono- ... Swn1JdzqTz

I have seen the Morris 1000 Mono Construction Manual for sale on 'e' bay in CD form and I did have a link but that has now lapsed.

If I find any more information I will post on here.


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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby don58van » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:48 am

I am particularly interested in any details for jigs
It is a lovely book with a charming olde worlde look and feel. There is some information that is still useful, but I think it is just about all covered in the other documents you have mentioned. I think its main purpose these days is as a lovely piece of Minor memorabillia.

One exception is the diagrams and dimensions for a front-end alignment jig. It picks up all the important points: engine mounting points, damper mounts, bumper mounts and eye-bolt holes. Unfortunately, it is a very difficult thing to build with the required level of precision. It is the sort of thing that a Minor restoration specialist might be able to justify, but not a one-off restorer.

You can see some diagrams from the Manual and pictures of the jig here:
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=25298&start=80
(very bottom of the page).

I think a careful study of that entire thread would be more useful than the Manual. It (the thread) is very informative and inspiring.

Don

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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby philthehill » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:42 pm

Don
Many thanks for the link.

That is the factory front alignment jig I referred to in my post above. I note from the BMC instructions that it was available on loan from the factory - therefore I doubt that all BMC body shops went to the expense of purchasing one.
Looking back I do not remember seeing one in the body shop attached to the BMC main dealers garage were I used to work.

Phil


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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby sparesman » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:36 pm

I had one of those alignment jigs which I rescued from a local BMC dealers when they closed down. Very useful when rebuilding an accident write-off tourer that our branch secretary bought to rebuild. Unfortunately I lent it to someone years ago and never got it back before he passed away and family cleared out his workshop.
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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby sparesman » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:36 pm

I had one of those alignment jigs which I rescued from a local BMC dealers when they closed down. Very useful when rebuilding an accident write-off tourer that our branch secretary bought to rebuild. Unfortunately I lent it to someone years ago and never got it back before he passed away and family cleared out his workshop.
1952 MM 2dr saloon in Thames Blue UNO212
1953 S11 Traveller in Birch Grey - oldest survivor ? Export model now reg PPO924
1953 S11 Traveller in Black - 3rd oldest PPX344

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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby sparesman » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:37 pm

Forgot to say. We have a Morris Mono-Construction book in the club stocks available for £20.
1952 MM 2dr saloon in Thames Blue UNO212
1953 S11 Traveller in Birch Grey - oldest survivor ? Export model now reg PPO924
1953 S11 Traveller in Black - 3rd oldest PPX344

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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby GavinL » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:48 am

i've now got a copy of the above, courtesy of the MMOC ( many thanks Sparesman), with the drawing for the jig in the back - if anyone wants a scan of it to make their own jig, PM me. i think i might make a simple ply version of the jig to re-align my bumper irons, which have suffered in the usual way.

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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby Sleeper » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:23 am

Gavin
Can you post it on here ??

Thanks
John

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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby GavinL » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:12 am

I've scanned and checked the images for the alignment jig, and added a couple of dimensions which didn't scan being too close to the spine. The 5 3/32" dimension is difficult to read on the original, but i'm pretty sure it's correct, but could possibly be 5/32". They should all be legible.
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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby Sleeper » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:15 am

Gavin
Nice one...

Thanks

John ;-)

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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby Bowie69 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:54 am

Have stitched that together, apart from some minor distortion on at the fold, it is pretty good.

There is one dimension that looks like it is missing, on the left hand side, but otherwise everything is there.
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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby Sleeper » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:16 am

Looks like they've duplicated the 5.3/32" dimension?

John ;-)

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Re: Morris mono-construction manual

Postby Bowie69 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:49 am

Looks quite likely now I look again, I was doing this in a rush ! :)


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