New fan belt, now have red light

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Jenko » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:09 am

Wow. Top info, thanks.
All the more reason to change the control box for now. If I ever have any more problems with the system I’ll definitely fit the alternator conversion.

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Shropshiremoggie » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:40 am

I have a battery that alternates between my Moggie ( dynamo ) and my mower . As neither machines are used for long Winter/ wet periods when not in use it is attached to an Accumate charger / conditioner . Now twelve years old and going well . Obviously not an A&B comparison test but fairly certain the Accumate was worth the money .

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Jenko » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:02 am

They’re great. I’ve used them on my motorcycles for years

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby simmitc » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:29 am

Club spares will alost certainly have either NOS or known good second hand original control boxes that are liklely to be better than anything being made today, and probably cheaper too. Give Bryan a call or an email, details in Minor Matters.

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby pgp001 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:02 pm

Jenko

Sorry to go off topic but......
I am intrigued that you mentioned motorcycles, what sort do you have. I am also a long time bike nut.

Phil

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Jenko » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:08 pm

simmitc wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:29 am
Club spares will alost certainly have either NOS or known good second hand original control boxes that are liklely to be better than anything being made today, and probably cheaper too. Give Bryan a call or an email, details in Minor Matters.
Doh!!
I’ve already ordered one. Oh well. Noted for future problems
Thanks

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Jenko » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:11 pm

pgp001 wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:02 pm
Jenko

Sorry to go off topic but......
I am intrigued that you mentioned motorcycles, what sort do you have. I am also a long time bike nut.

Phil
Bonneville and Thruxton. I’m fine with bikes, never any problem.
It’s cars that are outside of my comfort zone!

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Jenko » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:50 pm

Finally. It seems to be fixed, for a while at least!
Red light goes out as soon as it starts. No smoke or nasty burning smells.
Charging at around 13.7v at tickover, it goes up to 16 with increased revs.
So, fingers crossed.
Thanks for all of your help guys!
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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Jenko » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:51 pm

No, I haven't put it up for sale, that's the photo taken when I bought it!

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby pgp001 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:01 pm

Glad you finally got it sorted, now get out and enjoy it.

Phil
By the way I currently have a 1972 Honda XL250 & a 1950 BSA 350 B32

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby oliver90owner » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:09 am

Jenko wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:50 pm
Finally. It seems to be fixed, for a while at least!
Red light goes out as soon as it starts. No smoke or nasty burning smells.
Charging at around 13.7v at tickover, it goes up to 16 with increased revs.
So, fingers crossed.
Thanks for all of your help guys!
Don’t go on any long motorway runs or keep the revs high. 16 volts into a sealed lead acid battery will kill it. Read my earlier post more carefully - and if you don’t believe me, go and look it up on the internet.

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby panky » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:40 pm

Check the readings with another meter if you can. A guy on the Mini Forum recently had a similar issue and it turned out to be his multi meter reading high.
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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby myoldjalopy » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:06 pm

I agree with 'oliver90' - 16v is too high and will damage the battery. It shouldn't be much over 14v at any revs, certainly not above 14.5v. I assume you cleaned the contacts with thinners on a strip of paper before fitting the new box? If not, you could try that - but make sure you disconnect the battery before doing so! But you say in an earlier post that your old regulator was also showing 16v so it may be, as 'panky' suggests, that your mutimeter is the culprit......

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Jenko » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:29 pm

Yes, I cleaned the contacts. If I’ve changed the dynamo and the regulator I don’t see why it would be charging too high. I’ll check it with another multimeter but I’m not going to worry about it too much. I’ll never get to drive it at this rate!
A friend of mine reckoned it might be a problem with the ECU?

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Jenko » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:31 pm

A moggy with an ECU! Now that really would cause some interesting discussion.

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Jenko » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:28 am

So now it’s all fixed, I’m looking for a last pitiful advice please.
Apart from the for sale section on this website, where is the best forum to sell the Moggie?
It’s time for her to move to a different owner.
I’d hoped that it would be something for me and my family to enjoy but my wife won’t drive it due to all the reliability problems I’ve had with it. Hopefully they’re all sorted now, god knows it’s cost enough! And I need a reliable car to get to work.
So, fleabay? Autotrader? Any suggestions?

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Myrtles Man » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:32 am

I've always had a successful outcome by using 'Car and Classic' - plus, it's free! :D

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Jenko » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:46 am

Thanks I’ll have a look

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby pgp001 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:54 pm

There is someone looking for one here.

https://www.morrisminorforum.com/forum/ ... ice.35588/

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Re: New fan belt, now have red light

Postby Bowie69 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:22 pm

Just drive it yourself for 6 months, prove the reliability, and then you get to keep her :)


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