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Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:56 am
by SriVik
Hi
Need some info,
Attach part of the the LOOM is missing...
Its interior Custedy Light.
Isn't come together with the loom?? (Bought from ESM )
Anybody had same issue?
1964 Pull start model model

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:10 am
by alawrence10360
I was playing with my light circuit recently
That looks like the positive feed the interior light
There will be a brown and purple I think going to each of the door switches
The switch on the doors make the circuit to earth / the body of the vehicle
The wires you show are routed up the drivers side pillar I think
It is separate from the main loom
The the purple/ brown wire returns from the light and there is a junction connector to the right of the speedo and from there it spilts off to both door switches

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Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:53 am
by SriVik
The purple black wire in my photo is from the main loom ends behind the dash.

The separate purple/brown (interior light and switch) wire doesn't come together with main LOOM ???

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:40 am
by alawrence10360
I have a 2 core cable in mine with purple and black cables running up the drivers pillar to the light ( + & - ) I suspect that this connects the the one you have in your hand and is the feed from the main loom
A further brown/purple comes from the light to the door switches

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:53 pm
by SriVik
Okey got it,

I bought new MAIN wiring loom which i dint see the interior light in it. Must be buy separate i assume.

Where can i buy the new wires set? Let me know you know. Thanks

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:01 pm
by alawrence10360
I’m not sure
I’ve had a search but can’t see anything
I would ring ESM

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:31 pm
by SriVik
If it should be part of the loom, they have to send it.
I emailed them, lets see what is their reply

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:55 pm
by alawrence10360
I would ring
They have good customer service
The emails are looked at at the end of the day I believe but if you ring them they will get stuff in the post
I’ve been getting delivery the next day after ringing advise it’s urgent

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:26 pm
by SriVik
Im not from UK, email is feasible option for me

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:54 am
by SriVik
Hi i spoke to them, its quite suprising to hear them saying they never come across this interior wires..
alternatively asking me for the dimension and diagram as they usually copy it from original.. i got your explanations and colour code as per handbook.. anybody can share me the dimension?? I cannot do it because im not near to my morris
Thanks in advance

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:25 am
by alawrence10360
That doesn’t sound very helpful from ESM and I’m very surprised that if the looms they supply do not contain this wiring that it’s the first time they have heard about it
Surely ESM have access to a vehicle to check the dimensions ?

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:44 am
by SriVik
Ive emailed both autuspark and ESM, lets wait for their reply.

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:31 pm
by ManyMinors
The interior light wiring is not considered to be part of the loom.
Neither is the wiring to the headlamps - or the side or flasher lamps come to that :wink:

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:03 pm
by geoberni
ManyMinors wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:31 pm
The interior light wiring is not considered to be part of the loom.
Neither is the wiring to the headlamps - or the side or flasher lamps come to that :wink:
Exactly, which is why my SII, having been fitted with a latter loom (to enable the 1st gen flashing brake lights instead of trafficators), changes colours on changing from the main loom to the front indicators wiring.

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:53 am
by SriVik
ManyMinors wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:31 pm
The interior light wiring is not considered to be part of the loom.
Neither is the wiring to the headlamps - or the side or flasher lamps come to that :wink:
the headlamp comes with wire to connect with the loom
the flasher comes with wire to connect with the loom
but interior light doesn't come with loom or the light itself..

meaning to say,, there is no way buy a new loom for interior??

as i can see the diagram from various morris, all the carcomes with the this diagram...

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:51 am
by alawrence10360
the headlamp comes with wire to connect with the loom
the flasher comes with wire to connect with the loom
but interior light doesn't come with loom or the light itself..

meaning to say,, there is no way buy a new loom for interior??

as i can see the diagram from various morris, all the carcomes with the this diagram...
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I have never purchased a loom for a classic car but I have fitted, made and been involved in the design of many automotive type looms
I would expect any wiring loom for a particular model to contain all the wiring which doesn’t come with each item/ accessory it is servicing
At the very least you would expect a supplier of looms to produce any secondary loom that does not come with the primary loom as a separate item you can buy and also make it clear that this required
This is common sense
I’m sure ESM would take the same view and will be interested in their response

Re: Is the Interior-light wire part of LOOM?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:22 pm
by SriVik
Interior wires doesnt come with interior light or switch, I assume it should be part of the loom.. ,
ESM is being middle man, waiting for autospark’s reply..,
mean time, if anybody has the dimension would be appreciated