Derrington Four branch copy

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Derrington Four branch copy

Post by Keith »

Hello,

As you know I am going to have some copies made of my Derrington 4 branch. (4 into 2 into 1) that fits the sidevalve with standard or high compression head such as Derrington Silvertop etc.

Just need to test the market to see how many people are interested, NO commitment to buy, just so I know the numbers and can get a price for the quantity.


Please PM me if you have an interested, once I have the numbers I will get a price.

I don't intend to make any profit from this, just to cover the costs..

If the project progresses well I may have a batch done by the MM Rally in June....

thanks Keith
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Post by tortron »

any chance of a photo?
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Post by Keith »

copies are not made yet....
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Post by RobThomas »

I'd guess that I would buy 2 if they came out at a price that didn't break the bank. The option to buy enough pre-fab bits to add a single carb or twin would be an advantage (as we discussed). It would be handy for me to have a flat area below the 4 - 1 collector so that I could screw in a 14mm plug for a Lambda reader. Will it be sized to fit into a standard 1098 exhaust backpipe or just the early bore?
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Post by tortron »

Keith wrote:copies are not made yet....
of the original?
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Rob, Thanks, I've sent you a PM, had you name on the list already. regards Keith



re the picture of the original, I don't have it, its with my friend who will make up the copies....I'll let you have an picture of the copy once complete..
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Derrington Four branch copy

Post by ian.mcdougall »

Hi Keith
Is there any advantage to fitting the four branch on a standard engine as the exhaust manifold section of my combined manifold is a bit rough and is hard to get a seal to the head i would have to separate the exhaust from the inlet to use it, or does any one have a good 2nd hand one spare
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I recon a decent 4 branch will be a considerable improvement over the standard unit. The only problem will be sorting out a single or twin carb inlet manifold. I don't know whether the inlet section can be chopped out of the standard manifold. There is always the Monaro kit for twin carbs.
I would assume that the 4 branch bolts onto the front of the silencer as a direct replacement for the front pipe. The advantage also is that it will do away with that awkward manifold joint. In case you didn't receive my PM, I am interested. What cost are you aiming for?
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Post by Keith »

Ian, As Mike says, there will be a benefit, just need to work out how the inlet will connect. I'm going to have a sample made, so I'll see what I can do with an original inlet.
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Post by alanworland »

I guess the Derrington setup would come out of the block at a much more gracefull angle to aid gas flow, so I would think a problem could be encountered with exhaust ports 2 and 3?
If poss would you be able to take a photo from the front so that an idea of how much room it takes? I would like to be able to clear my existing twin setup
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Post by Keith »

There is an amount of downward slope of the pipes.....I'm sure all will be revealed once I have the sample set up in a car.... I will try various setups.... :D
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Any news, Keith?
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Post by Keith »

Rob, Your timing is just right. I couldn't get the guy who made my one off for my car (Alta/Shorrock combination) to make the Derrington copy...too much on. I have since only just found someone who will make a copy for me. I will be taking it around to him the week after next. I'll keep you posted.
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Looking forward to it. It would be great to have the twin carb setup when the engine is rebuilt.
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Looking forward to releasing all that extra horsepower!
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Looking forward to releasing all that extra horsepower!
Yes, both of them!!!!!!!
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Re: Derrington Four branch copy

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An update, I had some time over the Christmas, so contacted the chap re the four branch. He has completed all the tubes etc. I now need to take an MM along to have a trial fit to ensure it clears the body etc before he completes the final fabrication, etc...I'll take a car up to him in the next couple of weeks...Keith
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Re: Derrington Four branch copy

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My exhaust pipe is in three sections, down pipe, silencer, tail pipe, which I assume is normal. Can the new pipe be made the same length as the down pipe so that it flanged over the front pipe on the silencer. You would have to allow for the extra height of the Alta head so that the silencer would just clear the floor with the Alta head and hang a bit lower with the side valve head. It would up the costs if a separate exhaust had to be made for each application.
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Re: Derrington Four branch copy

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Surely Mike there is quite a bit of difference in height between the s/v and Alta pipe positions? Do you think it (the body opening/floor/ground clearance) can accomodate both types?
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Re: Derrington Four branch copy

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Hi, I would definitely be interested in one. Chris Jarvis (Jarvo) e-mail: morrismm50@msn.com
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