Long Range Classics

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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby ManyMinors » Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:38 am

bmcecosse wrote:Remember to factor in ROAD TAX on some of the cars suggested (and it's far from cheap on some of the cars suggested)
Surely, prior to 2001, road tax cost is the same for ANY car with an engine larger than 1500cc?

Therefore the road tax on an MX-5 is exactly the same as a large Mercedes - or a Range Rover for that matter?

Obviously a car which is tax exempt has an advantage here but this is usually reflected in the asking price of course!

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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby panky » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:26 pm

Yep £180 a year over 1500cc
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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby ManyMinors » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:34 pm

You're a few years out of date Panky. For cars registered prior to 2001, the cost of 12months road tax is £145 for an engine size of 1549cc or smaller and £235.00 for any larger engine.

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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby panky » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:03 pm

Apologies, I looked at the DVLA site a couple of weeks ago and £180 was quoted on there. Must have been an out of date page I visited :-?
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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby ManyMinors » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:15 pm

I must say that there is such a huge range of road tax prices for more recent cars that it is impossible for anyone to keep it in their heads :-?

Anyone thinking about purchasing a car built from 2001 onwards certainly needs to check the tax cost first but prior to that it is simple.

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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby bmcecosse » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:40 pm

The advantage of the MX5 is you can pop the hood down and enjoy the sun! And decent economy if driven reasonably....
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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby Blaketon » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:29 pm

ManyMinors wrote:I must say that there is such a huge range of road tax prices for more recent cars that it is impossible for anyone to keep it in their heads :-?

Anyone thinking about purchasing a car built from 2001 onwards certainly needs to check the tax cost first but prior to that it is simple.
I have a feeling there may be plans to simplify things. In lots of ways (Historic tax exemption aside!!), road tax on fuel would be simplest but could you trust the powers that be to put enough on, so that 10000 miles a year, in an "Average" car, cost say £200 more?

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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby Monty-4 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:20 pm

bmcecosse wrote:The advantage of the MX5 is you can pop the hood down and enjoy the sun! And decent economy if driven reasonably....
The early 90s MX5 - before the styling got 'mean' - is rather nice and perhaps the cheapest of all the options. Other than that I have a shortlist of the Triumphs, Wolseleys, Rileys and Rovers. Hopefully I can have a poke around some of these at the next car show I attend.

Just need to offload the bloody Figaro...
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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby Gareth » Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:33 pm

Why has no-one mentioned the P5?

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Or the P5B which would get you the big woofly V8...? :P

I'd agree with the idea of an X300, because they seem to go for chips now, almost to the extent that when it breaks, you'd throw it away. Should be less trouble than an XJ6, too, although they still cut a dash when they hurtle down the M40 in the outside lane. Quite small and nimble by modern standards, too.

Or, obviously, the simple choice of a diesel VW, a Golf or Passat, or the unloved (and unlovely) Bora. They have their quirks and foibles but seem to go on for ever.

But those aren't interesting. A P5 is interesting. :lol: Go on, you know you want to...
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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby ManyMinors » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:46 am

Gareth wrote:Why has no-one mentioned the P5?
Or the P5B which would get you the big woofly V8...? :P A P5 is interesting. :lol: Go on, you know you want to...
I agree that these are lovely cars but our friend seemed to be looking for a Morris Minor replacement to regularly drive 800mile journeys and I for one, certainly couldn't contemplate the cost of running one :o

These cars are not cheap to buy in good condition - and you wouldn't want one that wasn't in good condition - and the running costs are HIGH!

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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby Monty-4 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:41 am

Some progress with this.

We've sold impractical car #2 so have some funds for solving this particular problem. I've seen Triumph 2000's going for affordable money but I'm also kind of tempted to double down on the minor - ford 5-speed box etc.

Either way I'm going to be having a good time, I think!
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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby Blaketon » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:01 pm

Being as all the stuff is available off the shelf, I think that route could be less hassle. I think disc brakes are also a must and I also like the anti tramp bars for the rear axle.

Going a lot further and perhaps an indulgence, is a Quaife torque biasing diff. Whilst it's a competition part, it improves traction in bad weather. My MG Midget has one but when I first owned it, I used the car regularly and in the snow, traction wasn't good (And if you were forced to stop, it could be hard to get going). When I developed the Midget a bit (After it had been retired from regular use), the standard diff was too weak and so I fitted a Quaife. Not long before I had the Traveller, I happened to go out in the snow in the Midget (Not something i would normally do) and the difference was incredible, so much so, that when I got the Traveller, I fitted a Quaife diff to it.

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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby POMMReg » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:59 pm

Going slightly off topic here....

What are people's thoughts/experiences driving on ice with vehicle equipped with ABS?
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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby MarkyB » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:53 am

I think ABS stops doing its thing when all the wheels lock up as it assumes the car has stopped moving :o

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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby GBond » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:18 pm

The way ABS works is by measuring wheel deceleration, and if above a certain threshold releasing the brakes for an instant. Otherwise you'd never be able to stop completely when going downhill!

Haven't tried ice specifically but on low traction surfaces ABS brakes work very well but you need to know how to drive with them. If one wheel has very low traction the pump will start pulsing and what you need to do then is brake harder to transfer more pressure to the other wheels.

I've tried (on an empty parking lot) full ABS braking in the rain from 50 MPH without touching the steering wheel and the car stayed straight as an arrow, no other driver aids besides ABS.
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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby SteveClem » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:03 am

Doesn't ABS simulate what we used to call cadence braking back in the days when cars relied on the driver?

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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby twincamman » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:18 pm

From experience, ABS is a great help in the wet, once you get used to the brake pedal 'kicking back' at you. In snow, ABS and traction control are about as good as drum brakes and crossplies.

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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby Blaketon » Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:44 pm

My MG Car Club magazine, Safety Fast, arrived yesterday and this advert reminded me of this thread. That Volvo sounds interesting.[frame]Image[/frame]

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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby JOWETTJAVELIN » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:12 pm

P5 is a lovely car but perhaps a bit too good for such work? My own choice would be something from the Mercedes-Benz W123 range.
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Re: Long Range Classics

Postby Monty-4 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:46 pm

Picked up a cheap Rover P6 2000TC. Don't really like it. Anybody want a cheap Rover P6 2000TC? :D
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