Charging battery of modern car

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Charging battery of modern car

Postby Edward1949 » Mon May 04, 2020 9:56 am

Our Diesel Toyota Avensis has been idle during Coronavus lockdown. Never a great starter, I anticipate difficulty when the time comes to use it (unlike the Morris which bursts into life after weeks lying dormant) so I'd like to charge the battery. Internet is full of dire warnings and contradictory advice about advisability of disconnecting battery before charging modern cars.
Any thoughts? All advice gratefully received.

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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby Des911 » Mon May 04, 2020 10:14 am

My Porsche Boxster has been on trickle charge for weeks and always starts first time after leaving on charge with no extra precautions like disconnecting the battery
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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby KeithL » Mon May 04, 2020 10:26 am

I've always charged my modern cars without disconnecting the battery and no obvious ill effects so far.


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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby geoberni » Mon May 04, 2020 10:28 am

I have a 2010 Ford Kuga, it could probably do with a new battery as it is on the original and it can fail to turn over if left for a couple of weeks and it has been known to let me down if it has several stops/starts in the space of a few minutes (long story).

I have a regular old style charger that is probably 30+ yrs old, with a simple Low/High switch on it. I just place it on charge for a day once a week on the Low setting and it's doing fine.
Diesels are more of a problem than petrol engines as they need a lot more ommph to get them going, so an older battery really shows up it's shortcomings.
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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby alanworland » Mon May 04, 2020 10:50 am

I understand that the most modern cars employ an ECU which monitors all charge and discharging of the battery and therefore have dedicated charging points so any additional charging can be taken into account through the ECU.

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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby geoberni » Mon May 04, 2020 11:50 am

I guess with 'modern car' technology advancing all the time, particularly as regards batteries, the best recommendation would be to check the owners handbook and see if there are any warnings or other cautions regarding battery charging.
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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby alawrence10360 » Mon May 04, 2020 12:28 pm

I think you only need to be careful if you are considering boost starting/ charging
I have cooked an ecu carrying this out on a Scania in the past however the voltage did reach over 36V which is the point at which most ECUs will start to alarm (18V on 12V systems )
The DC output from a charger does have an AC ripple and so the peak can be higher than the RMS value you will see on your multimeter but the average automotive charger will not cause any issues to an ecu or any other system on a modern car

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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby ian.mcdougall » Mon May 04, 2020 9:22 pm

Hi
I would look at your drivers manual and see if it recommends how to charge battery and follow that and you can't go wrong.
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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby jagnut66 » Tue May 05, 2020 7:02 pm

(unlike the Morris which bursts into life after weeks lying dormant)
My Porsche Boxster has been on trickle charge for weeks and always starts first time after leaving on charge
Methinks (after reading the above and other posts) that not all progress is good progress and perhaps simpler is sometimes better......
Mind you I'd rather be driving the Morris anyway, so perhaps I'm bias..... :wink:
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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby noidea » Tue May 05, 2020 8:57 pm

i had one of my cars on trickle charge over the winter no problem with battery when starting but then noticed the speedo was going back and forwards had to send it to etb instruments to have it re calibrated as it had wiped the memory was told to dissconect the battery when charging in the future
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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby KeithL » Tue May 05, 2020 9:22 pm

Dave,

That's worrying. What car was that out of interest?


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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby noidea » Wed May 06, 2020 6:38 pm

this was on an ac cobra replica
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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby Edward1949 » Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:31 pm

Follow-up report: yesterday we needed to use a car for the first time since lockdown. As anticipated the Morris fired up instantly and the Toyota failed to start - tried until the starter would no longer turn. Connected my 25 year-old charger (having disconnected battery earth lead from car) and kept an eye on charge rate dropping from 5 amps to 1 amp after about 6 hours. Car now starts! Very relieved to report that none of the adverse symptoms reported on Toyota forums have appeared ( eg. electric windows developing a mind of their own/ door-lock problems/ engine management issues). Phew!
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Re: Charging battery of modern car

Postby SteveClem » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:37 pm

Recently had to put a new battery on a 2010 Tiguan, just as simple as changing a Minor battery. And the radio didn’t pack up either...


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