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Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:20 pm
by Greenie
Found out today my Morris Pickup 1971 is a previous one owner. Sadly the original owner has passed but he owned this vehicle from new. He used it for his carpentry business.. Over the years it fell into disarray and he started to bring her back to full glory. But time waits for no man and It was finally stored 19 years ago and that was it. So now proudly the new owner I intend to get her back on the road, with a promise to the previous owners wife asking for a photograph when done, but I intend once back on the road to drive it to her to show the vehicle in person.
That's it for now until I get more history.

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:26 pm
by Smithy1961
good luck Greeny,
Post lots of photos of its progress

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:45 am
by Greenie
Yes I tried last night but each of my photos comes up error so looks like I need to learn a bit more haha... Will post them from main computer should be able to reduce size on there. Plus a van I've completed. Not yet gone to painters but will get it done this year.
GREENIE

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:39 pm
by graham1957
hi Greenie,my 71 van is a similar story to yours, i bought it from the man who bought it brand new,due to his poor health he was unable to work on it any more,he was reluctant to sell but his wife insisted it was sold, i told him he could come and overlook the restoration work but i thought he was too poorly to visit,anyway once it was completed i drove it back to his house for him to see and photographed him with it, a framed photo was later given to him.He was admitted to a nursing home where i since learnt the pic was attached to his room door so he could easily identify which was his own room from all the others.Graham

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:49 pm
by Greenie
The arrival of Norman
The arrival of Norman
Norman,s Arrival Pickup Tuck.JPG (89.3 KiB) Viewed 4929 times
Forgive me for side ways on photos folks but very new to this . But Proud to Show you Norman, That was the previous owners name,
I hope I give justice to this in my Restoration and then I can proudly take it to show the family of Norman. A trip down memory lane with a bouquet of flowers for his wife.
Greenie

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:05 pm
by Greenie
Nice one Graham, A man after my own heart... " Norman" is now in my garage being worked on, I am at present working on the braking system,, bit at a time,.. Once that is done I intend to crack it up... Norman came to me in very good body and frame as he had worked on and maintained it. Not started now for 19 years but it all looks good. Me and the wife will do as much as we can, I've been in the business most of my life,, I hate to tell you what I used to do ,,, but I had a Scrap Yard.... that says it all (Forgive me All For My Past Trespasses)
However being 82 I am going to get this done like my Van called Greenie... Waiting for a new coat of paint but all done Up and Running.
I will keep the post going until I have carried out my promise to myself.
regards Greenie

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:22 pm
by Greenie
Just would like to show you my Van that I restored last Year, I do not have many Photos as Once again came to me in good Order and I have given it a load of TLC along with new parts / carpets/ etc and got it up and running as it had not been started for some 7?10 years. But once again dried stored that makes all the difference, I shall be sending her to the painters this year...
her name same as mine Greenie.

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:17 pm
by Greenie
:D :D hi today the braking system is nearly finalised.. One pin evaded me so at the grand age of 82 I succumbed rolled underneath removed trunnion and after all my hours of struggling finally fixed this elusive pin.
Also I checked electrics lo and behold side lights, head lights, indicators, and even the heater blower works. Wowee. The chassis is in great condition along with body. Brakes got to be bled.
Waiting for wing and still looking two seats.
Greenie

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:19 pm
by Greenie
Forgot to mention all the above work carried out on Norman the pickup..
Ta

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:51 am
by Greenie
Torsion bar not trunnion..... On Norman. Apologies

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:41 pm
by myoldjalopy
Well done and good luck! That pick-up is definately worth saving. I have a mate with one that is in far worse condition, although it is on the road - just looks very tatty, with lots of filler everywhere! :(

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:01 pm
by Greenie
:oops: cheers mate... Yes Norman's in great condition chassis like brand new and body work no filler anywhere.. I picked up a great motor... But today I've started looking at engine and blow me all that started up yesterday died on me today on the turn of the key went CLUNK, no lights nothing not even showing anything on battery charger. Maybe starter motor.. Who knows.. Bit miffed thought my luck in yesterday.. But that's restoration.. Any ideas 💡 💡... I will endeavour
Greenie...

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:24 pm
by mogbob
A stuck Starter Motor would be my first point of call. I'd disconnect the battery , put a spanner on the Starter Motor pinion to try and release it ( or rock in gear back and forth ).
Whilst it's all disconnected I'd work my way through , checking battery voltage with a Multimeter.Then check out the electrical connections big battery cables positive and negative , clean posts , good earth to body, solenoid terminals , Lucar connectors ( smaller than the main battery cable s ) and wires N =Brown ( to Control Box )
and the WR = White / Red tracer ( to ignition switch ). Engine to body earth strap and gearbox to body strap clean and sound ?

No lights .....hmm , not fed by ignition , nor fused. Might be a different issue altogether , not necessarily connected ( not a deliberate pun ) to the Starter Motor.
A duff battery would explain the no lights issue. Is the Battery showing a healthy 12.6 / 12.7 volts on a Multimeter ,DC setting ?
Is it an old battery ?

Lets us know how you get on.

Bob

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:38 pm
by Greenie
:( thanks Bob, did most of the things you said today, and finally got it working.
Got the fuel pump working from a can of petrol but can't get it from the tank.. It appears blocked....!!!!!!
Greenie

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:12 pm
by Greenie
:D :D :D
Wow folks I got the brakes working all new feed. Cylinders. Etc etc to the front boy I'm happy with that... Will replace the rear ones this week then I can start to really crack on.
Not too worried about blocked fuel pipe until all braking system replaced...
Greenie

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:00 pm
by mogbob
Sorry to break the news but a blocked fuel line / tank is usually bad news. I hope you haven't got too much fuel in the tank to drain , if it comes to it.
The diagnosis is usually crud in the tank , either sediment over several decades or more probably flakes of rust
from the inside of the tank. A bouncing session , each side of the vehicle , alternately might shift the blockage but it will soon return. I'd disconnect the pipe ( tank to fuel pump ) at the tank end , after draining the tank into suitable containers.
Some people risk it by loosening the union and then quickly sticking a bung in the tank. Risks ? Yes a lot. Fuel spillage , damage to the tank connection by the bung, if the seal is not too good and you're heavy handed with
banging the bung in. An external ignition source causing an explosion , even outside in the fresh air.
I wouldn't risk it , full stop. H & S , outside away from buildings , battery disconnected , assistant with fire extinguisher at the ready. I've done the course , a few years ago with Surrey Fire and Rescue. The petrol explosion happens , in an instant , with no time to react whatsoever ! The Instructor's advice to those suggesting they would roll out of the way , was to pre book their bed at the Specialist Burns Unit beforehand.

A blow through the pipe with compressed air might fix it temporarily but tank removal / clean out ( steam clean ) is the way to go. On one car I had , I filled the tank , once removed with a few handfuls of gravel and gave it a good shake. The work out was tiring but after washing out with hot soapy water it lived to fight another day.
Order a new washer for the drain plug nut early on in the proceedings.
Well done on the progress with the brakes.
Bob

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:59 pm
by Greenie
:( thanks Bob sound advice of which I totally understand. It is the tank but I will order new fuel lines, and nuts washers etc.... Thanks for reminding to me disconnect battery.
I also have extinguisher ..
When working on the van it lit up very nicely whilst working on engine.. Lucky no health issues. And a hosepipe came in very handy. Damn shame that, it ended up more work but I suppose for the better.
Yes I let you know how I get on over the next week. And appreciate your comments and advice.
Watch this space....
Greenie

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:18 am
by myoldjalopy
Bob - "The petrol explosion happens , in an instant , with no time to react whatsoever...."
Too true.......a mate blew himself up not too long ago with a petrol can near a bonfire and spent two weeks in hospital. To compound his bad luck, once he was on fire, he rolled across the ground to try and extinguish the flames - and rolled into a nettle patch! :-?

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:19 pm
by ManyMinors
I know we're getting away from the topic now, but on the subject of working on cars and fuel related accidental fires, one tip: Wash your overalls regularly. I knew somebody who's somewhat oily old overalls caught fire by accident while working. Horrific injuries which would have been much less serious had his attire not been smothered in old oil.......

Re: Restoring Morris Pickup 1971

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:36 pm
by Greenie
Thanks to all you good people out there giving me good sound advice so appreciated... And totally agree with all.
I have good news today.. Oh boy I cracked him up, adjusted, tinkered, new points, and Wowee..... He fired and ran ... After 20 years silenced , Norman coughed spluttered but made his voice heard ,,, fantastic.
That was enough for me today (after all I get a bit tired at 82) but I'm so pleased.

Tomorrow clean out carb etc... And got a new exhaust to fit.
(My good friend is going to help me and also sort the tank issue )

Greenie