"Gracie" Dove grey 1965 2 door saloon.

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"Gracie" Dove grey 1965 2 door saloon.

Postby Murrayminor » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:33 pm

Good evening
I thought I'd better start a thread concerning the work I'm about to carry out on Gracie my '65 2 door ?Morris Minor.
A brief history of my brief ownership, I used to own a couple of MX-5's but I got bored of them as they were neither new nor properly classic so I decided to sell them.
I sold my MK3 and in the deal I became the owner of Gracie.
Now Gracie looked clean from the outside but a quick look round her and I realised she was pretty rough underneath the shiny paint, BUT she did have a sweet little 1098 engine, what appeared to be 4 decent steel wings, rust free bonnet and rust free boot, the interior was clean and undamaged and the car drove very well, apart from the brakes.
I did the deal and managed to offload my rusting 2009 MX-5 and came away with Gracie.
I drove her home and quickly replaced the whole braking system.

A short time later I decided to change the bushes on the front suspension and when digging about I decided it wasn't worth putting Gracie back on the road until I had given her a going over with a welder.

So I began to strip her down, the interior is now in my back bedroom, the wiring loom has been labelled but will be replaced.
The outer panels wings,doors,bonnet and boot will be sent to my mates garage for storage.

The car is slowly revealing her rusty underbelly but rather than shy away I have decided to bite the bullet and get stuck in myself and learn to weld.

At the moment Gracie is up on axle stands in the garage but I have a rotisserie to build so I can gain access to the underside making welding that bit easier.

I have a few photographs which I will try upload.
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Gracie in the garage
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Re: "Gracie" Dove grey 1965 2 door saloon.

Postby Murrayminor » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:37 pm

Some more pictures showing the rusty bits.
I have noticed the carpet appeared to be glued to the floor and was destroyed on removal.
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Re: "Gracie" Dove grey 1965 2 door saloon.

Postby Murrayminor » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:39 pm

Oh and whoever invented underseal needs shooting, it's covering a host of rust and it looks like the last owner who "restored" Gracie got it free by the bucket load as it's everywhere.
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Re: "Gracie" Dove grey 1965 2 door saloon.

Postby Murrayminor » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:44 pm

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Re: "Gracie" Dove grey 1965 2 door saloon.

Postby Murrayminor » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:47 pm

As is usual with UK cars the rust on the nearside it worse than the offside but I think I will begin on the better side so I can work out how it all goes together.
Once the shell is stripped fully I will weld some cross braces in to keep the shell in the same shape while I remove the sills and floor.
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Re: "Gracie" Dove grey 1965 2 door saloon.

Postby Belmont » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:11 pm

Looks like you have got quite a bit of welding to do there! I think welding is actually relatively fun work, but accessibility and ergonomics are really important so I think you've got the right idea with the rotisserie!

Will be following with interest, good luck! :)
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Re: "Gracie" Dove grey 1965 2 door saloon.

Postby Murrayminor » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:53 am

Belmont wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:11 pm
Looks like you have got quite a bit of welding to do there! I think welding is actually relatively fun work, but accessibility and ergonomics are really important so I think you've got the right idea with the rotisserie!

Will be following with interest, good luck! :)
There is definitely enough rust to improve my welding skills.
Thankfully, I have enough room in my garage to roll the car on the rotisserie which should make things somewhat easier.
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Re: "Gracie" Dove grey 1965 2 door saloon.

Postby Murrayminor » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:34 pm

This sketch is knocking about the internet showing a cross section of a typical sill.
My car will require sills in due course but I have a query.
Is the outer under sill on a 2 door welded along its length to the floor panel?
My inner sill is sitting above the floor pan will the floor separate from the inner sill allowing me to retain my inner solid sill or will I have to remove the whole sill structure?
I don't want to cut anything away just yet before I have the new panels to hand so just checking what I have ahead of me.
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Re: "Gracie" Dove grey 1965 2 door saloon.

Postby kevin s » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:14 pm

Yes you should be able to leave the inner sill in place, usually they will be corroded along the flange which joins to the floor but given the metal is pretty thick its not difficult to seam weld a new piece in.

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Re: "Gracie" Dove grey 1965 2 door saloon.

Postby Murrayminor » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:52 am

kevin s wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:14 pm
Yes you should be able to leave the inner sill in place, usually they will be corroded along the flange which joins to the floor but given the metal is pretty thick its not difficult to seam weld a new piece in.
Thanks for that, the actual sill seam is solid but the floor is not.
One I have the car on the rotisserie and cleaned off the ton of underseal I will have a better idea how it all goes together underneath.
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