identifaction ital A or ital A+
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identifaction ital A or ital A+
hey i recently bought what i was told was a Ital A+ engine, however after buying parts for A+ and them not fitting im not so sure what i have so if you could help me to identify what i have this would be very helpfull. manifold on this may be misleading as i believe this to be wrong, so i have bought a new one since.[frame][/frame]
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Re: identifaction ital A or ital A+
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Re: identifaction ital A or ital A+
pics are to small for me to see so may be same for others.
post the number off the engine will sure help in its ID
post the number off the engine will sure help in its ID
Re: identifaction ital A or ital A+
A+ has strengthening ribs horizontally and vertically on the engine block. A has smoother appearance.
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Re: identifaction ital A or ital A+
The A+ has a ribbed block, the later distributor with a fork type clamp & the charging system mountings will be spaced closer for an alternator rather than a dynamo.
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Looks like a Marina A series to me - why do you think A+ ?? The only important difference for you is the dizzy mounting. And with no obvious breathers - it must leak like a sieve ! You MUST have a breather on the timing case - and also on the rocker cover to have any hope of an oil-tight engine.
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Re: identifaction ital A or ital A+
On a Marina engine it's not unheard of regarding the confusion on A+/A. The Ital had an A+ engine but apart from some additional ribs on the block and a different dizzy clamp they look very similar to MARINA A series.
The dizzy clamp type should be the main way to tell the difference - if it has the clamp like a Minor engine and doesn't have the fork type clamp, then it's an A. If it's got the fork clamp it's an A+
IIRC Marina A series mountings were spaced for an Alternator.& the charging system mountings will be spaced closer for an alternator rather than a dynamo.
The dizzy clamp type should be the main way to tell the difference - if it has the clamp like a Minor engine and doesn't have the fork type clamp, then it's an A. If it's got the fork clamp it's an A+
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Re: identifaction ital A or ital A+
hey the serial number on the engine is rkm 1129 e15046. but by the sounds of it its a marina which is annoying after it was sold to me as a ital and i bought ital parts for it. the engine didnt come with a distributor so dont know if clamp or fork.
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Re: identifaction ital A or ital A+
The A+ engine was a stronger casting and is recognised by the horizontal and vertical ribs on the block.
Inline A;
And inline A+
The last of the Marinas were fitted with the A+ as this engine was in production before the Ital was introduced.
Inline A;
And inline A+
The last of the Marinas were fitted with the A+ as this engine was in production before the Ital was introduced.
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Re: identifaction ital A or ital A+
I didn't word that very well I meant the drilling's in the casting are narrower rather than the brackets. This forced my hand into using an alternator when I fitted my 1275rayofleamington wrote:IIRC Marina A series mountings were spaced for an Alternator.& the charging system mountings will be spaced closer for an alternator rather than a dynamo.
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Re: identifaction ital A or ital A+
Internally - the A+ has the later/better/stronger main bearing shells in the caps.
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Re: identifaction ital A or ital A+
the block is ribbed so i fairly confident its an a+. should an a+ ital distributor fit this engine because it doesnt the drive pegs are to wide to fit into the slots?