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rogerowen
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Water pump won't fit!

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Water pump on my 1960 948 was beginning to get a bit noisy - so decided to replace. 1960 saw a modification to the block which incurred an increase in size of the impellor. Both earlier short impellor and later long impellor versions are available, and as I intended to use the car right up to replacement - I ordered both types, and when the old one was removed I could easily see that it was the long type. However - when I went to fit the new pump the impellor hits the ridge inside the block. Using a depth gauge the new impellor stands 15.5 mm from flange face whereas the old one is 13 mm. Using same gasket goo on the impeller face I can determine where it's making contact.

My first thought was that I should be fitting the short impellor version (maybe a previous owner had modified a 'long' pump to fit whereas my engine originally had a 'short' one) But, then a short pump will obviously not perform as well as the long one - possibly leading to overheating problems.

What I'm thinking of doing is to attack the ridge inside the block with a die grinder to allow a good clearance for the impellor - also taking into account the fact that there will of course be some heat expansion to consider.

Any thoughts?
That's strange R2, the damage doesn't look so bad from here!
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Re: Water pump won't fit!

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THE PICTURE! :oops:[frame]Image[/frame]
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Re: Water pump won't fit!

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Short impeller is correct for the 948 engine. Plenty of circulation...
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Re: Water pump won't fit!

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if you grind away will you weaken the cylinder bore

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Right chaps - many thanks, small impellor pump it is then! All done. :D :D[frame]Image[/frame]
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Re: Water pump won't fit!

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BUT - oh dear = that's the very unreliable bypass hose on there!!! Take it off and fit a 'solid' hose before you box it all up.
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bmcecosse wrote:BUT - oh dear = that's the very unreliable bypass hose on there!!! Take it off and fit a 'solid' hose before you box it all up.
Tell me more, please.
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The convoluted bypass hoses are very unreliable - far better to fit a 'solid wall' hose which will last 'for ever'. See item #16.... and note the convoluted hose ( # 17) is described as the 'repair' option........ http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewP ... exID=17143
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Re: Water pump won't fit!

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OK, thanks. Don't think BM stock the straight type - will order from M.
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Carry the conv hose in your spares kit (along with the head gasket and dizzy and fuel pump) - so you can help fix other Minors stopped at the side of the road!
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Re: Water pump won't fit!

Post by DAVIDMCCULLOUGH »

A piece of the 1/2' heater hose it the same, you can get it from any car shop.


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DAVIDMCCULLOUGH wrote:A piece of the 1/2' heater hose it the same, you can get it from any car shop.
Thanks, think I might have some lying around. :D
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As long as it's good thick wall!
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