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How much paint?

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Hey, I'm looking to respray my '61 2-door saloon (it's my first project so I'm not very knowledgable on the subject), when looking to buy paint i'm not sure how much I will need, would 1ltr do to cover the whole car? or do I need to buy a 5ltr tin?

Also, which type of paint would be best for me to use?(bearing in mind I am spraying it in my own garage/garden)

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Post by flying »

hi welcome to the forum....you would need a 5ltr of cellouse paint (IF STILL AVAILABLE ) then you would also need thinners and also you etch primmer and either builder primmer or normal primmer.....if you got 2k paint (IF STILL AVAILABLE ) you need to have special breathing gear...unless you want to kill your self...which is not advisable!!!.....but if you cant get either of those paints then you will have to use water based paint which is alot harder to get to dry
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Post by alex_holden »

If I understand it correctly, with the water based paint you have to spray a 2K lacquer (clearcoat) over the top of the pigment, which has the same safety problems as spraying 2K colour coats.
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alex_holden wrote:If I understand it correctly, with the water based paint you have to spray a 2K lacquer (clearcoat) over the top of the pigment, which has the same safety problems as spraying 2K colour coats.
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also you etch primmer and either builder primmer or normal primmer.....
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re: etch primer AND normal primer?
what is the difference?
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Post by bigginger »

One of them etches and the other doesn't :) The etch eats into the metal underneath, providing a better key for the layers on top.
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Yes, you use etch primer on bare metal, especially important for the aluminium panels on the traveller. Normal primer can be used over good flatted paint.

there is some good advice on painting with cellulose here http://www.citroen-restoration.co.uk/ds/painting.php
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Wear an organic vapour mask! as cellulose paint is harmful, and don;t smoke as the funes are highly flammable.
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Ok, thanks guy's (that website is really useful john!) I'll try and update you with my restoration as i go
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Post by dave1949 »

i've read the website info
my compressor has a 50ltr tank output 7.6cfm, i have several panels to paint, will this cope also does the quality of the spray gun make a big difference to the finish? mines a cheapy
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Post by chickenjohn »

Ideally, you will need a 14cfm compressor, and with a 50l tank the tank will need to be regularly topped up by the compressor. If the compressor cannot keep up then hire a bigger one.

Just try on one panel and see if its keeping up (if you can keep the wet edge going without running out of air). With a cheap gun you are likely to get orange peel. With enough coats this can be flatted smooth. Give it a go on just one panel.
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Post by jonathon »

Make sure that you set the cfm to no more than 4.5 at the gun. any more will be too much

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