SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Discuss other problems here.
John Naylor
Minor Fan
Posts: 301
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:19 pm
MMOC Member: No

SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby John Naylor » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:54 pm

An official report from the Ministry of Transport, Driving & Vision Section, has emphasised the requirement for making sure that visibility must be maintained through the windscreens of all vehicles.
New items on the MOT test from the first of next month will hit owners and drivers of split screen cars hard, by decreeing that the centre pillar of the windscreen: "constitutes an obstruction and must therefore be removed." Quoted directly from Minor Matters Vol XV No.5 Mar/Apr 1994.
They go on to discuss the use of perspex centre pillars.
In Minor Matters Vol XV No.6 May/ Jun 1994 they remind readers of the No.5 April 1st publish date but apparently many splitty owners were not amused!
I have been wading through a pile of ancient Minor Matters and there are some pretty good articles. Will pass the lot on when I have finished reading them. Perhaps room for a regular '25 years ago' piece in future Minor Matters?
(Hope no splitty owners choked on their corn flakes reading this).
John

Bertie.

amgrave
Minor Addict
Posts: 986
Joined: Mon May 26, 2014 3:26 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby amgrave » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:14 pm

Does this mean we might have to fit transparent windscreen wipers and arms in the future???????????????? :lol: :lol: :lol:


martin418
Minor Fan
Posts: 325
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:54 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby martin418 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:08 am

just simply remove the screen plus cheap air con and saving money on wiper blades !!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

simmitc
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 3877
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:43 am
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby simmitc » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:33 pm

Great article. The worrying thing is that it sounds so absolutely right, and exactly what the dreaded Eurocrats might do :evil:

MarkyB
Minor Maniac
Posts: 7845
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:18 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby MarkyB » Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:18 am

Will they ban fluffy dice and air fresheners too?

"Once you break something you will see how it was put together"

mike.perry
Series MM Registrar
Posts: 10184
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:39 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby mike.perry » Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:58 am

As split screens do not need an MOT - no problem :)
[sig]3580[/sig]

Matt
Minor Legend
Posts: 3768
Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:30 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby Matt » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:27 pm

Apparently neither will any other (non modified) minor from 2017
Serial Morris Minor Owner and Old Vehicle Nutter
www.facebook.com/transitionclassics

simmitc
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 3877
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:43 am
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby simmitc » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:15 pm

More detail please...

mike.perry
Series MM Registrar
Posts: 10184
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:39 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby mike.perry » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:49 pm

Save this one for April 1st
[sig]3580[/sig]

meh
Minor Friendly
Posts: 57
Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:47 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby meh » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:58 pm


panky
Minor Legend
Posts: 1682
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:12 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby panky » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:11 pm

It has been on the cards for a while but with more draconian stipulations rather than 'substantially changed', basically a car had to be absolutely bog standard - no modification at all (including tyres and lights) to qualify as historic. This sounds like a watering down of the requirements but I dread it coming in, hopefully it wont. Might sway my vote if there is a referendum on staying in the EU.
Image

SteveClem
Minor Legend
Posts: 1884
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:37 am
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby SteveClem » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:58 pm

Funny this EU thing. Supposed to be about standardising things across Europe but obviously every country continues to do it's own thing regardless.

TvdWerf
Minor Addict
Posts: 546
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:39 am
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby TvdWerf » Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:47 pm

The EU thing for the MOT is maybe better as in the link.
The new rules for us is going 50 years and younger, and a difference is there between old car from 30+ and real old-timers from 40+
The actual is older as 1-1-1960 is MOT free and tax free.
Even where they are running on: the very cheap rebuilt for Liquid Gas says you have to pay taxes, while the standard Moggy fuel is Tax free ;)
The problem was here for a while, a lot of old VW golf Diesels, and old Mercedes diesels were in use as daily transport, when they were 25+, so old smoking cars, who are not a real old-timer, were filling the old-timer shows.
People with older cars did not come any more, why park your MM between 2 1980 VW golf's?
Now this is over, only the really old-timer user is taking care for his old car ;)
MM '51 LHD sidevalve

les
Minor Maniac
Posts: 7749
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2002 12:00 am
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby les » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:41 pm

panky wrote:It has been on the cards for a while but with more draconian stipulations rather than 'substantially changed', basically a car had to be absolutely bog standard - no modification at all (including tyres and lights) to qualify as historic. This sounds like a watering down of the requirements but I dread it coming in, hopefully it wont. Might sway my vote if there is a referendum on staying in the EU.
I read it as --not-'substantially modified'


panky
Minor Legend
Posts: 1682
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:12 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby panky » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:51 pm

The actual phrase is 'unless it has undergone “substantial change” from how it was when manufactured' but 'not substantially modified' is the same thing I guess.
Image

martin418
Minor Fan
Posts: 325
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:54 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby martin418 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:20 pm

do you think my m10 bolts holding my front panel on are a substantial modification :lol: :lol: :D

panky
Minor Legend
Posts: 1682
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:12 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby panky » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:45 pm

It's a dead give away if they're stainless :)
Image

martin418
Minor Fan
Posts: 325
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:54 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby martin418 » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:22 am

don't worry i have hidden the car in the garage in case vosa are monitoring this site and send a drone over to investigate :lol: :lol: :lol:

Matt
Minor Legend
Posts: 3768
Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:30 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby Matt » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:22 pm

VOSA no longer exist...

Now DVSA

I wonder where all our taxes go?
Serial Morris Minor Owner and Old Vehicle Nutter
www.facebook.com/transitionclassics

Autobahn
Minor Friendly
Posts: 38
Joined: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:15 pm
MMOC Member: No

Re: SHOCK LEGISLATION FOR SPLIT SCREENS OWNERS

Postby Autobahn » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:58 am

MarkyB wrote:Will they ban fluffy dice and air fresheners too?
They are banned already, many MOT stations will remove these to carry out the test or vehicle would fail.

Technically Sat Navs stuck to the windscreen also impede vision and are not legal.



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests