Midget/Sprite Brake Discs

Post by **bmcecosse** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:56 pm

Could be - once we get sight of the bracket!!

Post by **paulhumphries** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:38 am

I've just found this -
http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/DSK10 ... Detail.cfm
I assume the big pile of washers are for shimming the caliper to centralise on disc.

Anyone know if there are alternative calipers, to Midget items, that are suitable ?

I've got the discs & hubs, can get the mounts made but am struggling to find Midget calipers.
With an old ones for exchange they aren't too dear but even old (for exchange) are fetching high prices.

Paul Humphries.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:15 pm

I have Fiesta MK I calipers on my Mini - same bolt pitch (within thous) as the Metro 4 pot caliper - so you could try these. It's a single pot caliper and very low maintenance and reliable!
Looking at these J shape brackets - which part bolts to the upright - and by how many bolts ? It looks a bit weak to me !

Post by **IslipMinor** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:02 pm

Apologies for the delay.

I have a drawing of the bracket for the Metro caliper to Minor upright somewhere 'safe'. Will find, scan it and post on this forum.

Richard

Post by **bmcecosse** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:04 pm

Yes please Richard !!

Post by **d_harris** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:11 pm

I don't think that theres any conversion from any suppliers, so you would have to make up your own conversion. Parts are available easily I believe, but you might have to fabricate the brackets!

Post by **eastona** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:36 am

For Midget calipers, try Watford MG Breakers. One of my other cars is a 1500 Midget, and i've used them a few times, they're very helpful.

I may even have a set in the garage, I'll take a look.

FWIW I've got an entirely standard midget setup on my 1500 except green stuff pads and it stops really well, I've never got it to fade, and I'm notoriously hard on brakes (brembo disks and Ferodo DS2500 pads on my SAAB and it stops like this

especially when they get warmed through).

I tend to upgrade brakes first, it saves those Jesus moments

Andrew

Post by **eastona** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:39 am

While I'm here, I'd defo be interested in a set of brackets Richard.

I've found the minor brakes to be "adequate" ('69 four door), but wouldn't mind a bit of reserve capacity, and it sounds like a (nearly) period mod, which I like.

A

Post by **Kevin** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:57 am

For Midget calipers, try Watford MG Breakers. One of my other cars is a 1500 Midget, and i've used them a few times, they're very helpful.

Yes they are good as well as local to me.
http://www.mgbreakers.com/SparesIndex.html

Post by **bmcecosse** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:18 pm

Mg Breakers stuff on ebay always looks a tad expensive to me !

Post by **d_harris** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:26 pm

but then, that is ebay!

Post by **Matt** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:40 pm

To my untrained eye, spridget calipers look exactly the same as mini ones, but I havent placed them side to side...

Post by **bmcecosse** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:41 pm

They may be very similar to the older Cooper calipers ? Not same as Cooper S calipers (which sell at a premium) - and smaller than the later 8.4" disc Mini calipers which are relatively huge. Metro 4 pot calipers are even bigger - but all these calipers have the same two bolt fixing pitch - I dunno what it is and it's too cold/dark/miserable to go and find some tonight!

Post by **Kevin** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:08 am

Mg Breakers stuff on ebay always looks a tad expensive to me !

Remember a of lot of his ebay bits are new and ebay is ebay but I have bought bits in his shop and the prices have been how should I say, a bit more flexible and when I have seen him at autojumbles the same applies with the used parts.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:33 pm

Ahh now at autojumble 'negotiation' is possible !!

Post by **IslipMinor** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:15 am

but all these calipers have the same two bolt fixing

The Metro calipers are definitely different hole spacing to the Spridget, and further from the hub centreline.

Still looking for the drawing, if I cannot find it will make a new one from the actual bracket.

Post by **paulhumphries** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:09 am

In case anyone's interested there is a seller on eBay disposing of surplus stock at present,
I've just bought a pair of reconditioned Midget calipers (no exchange) for £37.95 each

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MG-MIDGET-LH-RECO ... dZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MG-MIDGET-RH-RECO ... dZViewItem

Paul Humphries

Post by **IslipMinor** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:08 pm

I now have the drwaing for the Metro caliper bracket and photos of it in place.

How do I get them to 'paste' as part of this reply? Why can't it be a simple copy/paste?

Post by **RogerRust** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:44 am

ITs the same as yoour siggy picture.

1st launch the picture on the web then add it to your message
[img]...............[/img] don't forget the http:// or it won't work

Post by **IslipMinor** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:33 am

What a performance! At last managed to upload the pictures, but there MUST be an easier way!

Firstly the actual drawing - if anyone would like a copy I can email/fax/post it.

Next the parts required for each side:

'J' mounting bracket

Spacer x 3

Button head hex drive 'Allen' M8 x 30 HT screw x 3

M8 Nyloc nut x 3

The 'J' bracket mounted off the original backplate mounting holes.

The complete set up for the solid Metro discs - vented are actually in progress!! Uses the standard Metro M10 caliper mounting bolts + Loctite Thread Lock.

The result with stainless hoses, Mintex 1155 pads, Mintex M20 rear linings (standard shoes/drums), adjustable pressure limiting valve (Mini + mods - details available) and 2.2:1 servo is unfadable, very powerful brakes that just work!