Anti roll bars, servo brake kits

Post by **kangarolf** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:28 pm

Hi there,

I am looking to install a front anti roll bar and a servo assist brake kit,

Does anyone have any recommendations for certain kits/suppliers...?

Any feedback greatly appreciated.

Rolf

Post by **_h_____** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:48 pm

Front anti-roll bar go for the Minor mania kit, if you are happy to have a weld on one, great mod. If you want a bolt on one - there have been recent posts on those.

Post by **Willie** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:55 pm

The bolt on kit which involves NO mods(hole drilling or welding)is
from Mr Grumpy. The design at the suspension arm ends is basic
but it works.

Post by **aupickup** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:59 pm

i have teh grumpy one and at the moment i am quite happy with it.

disc brakes they say have the jhl one as it is easy to fit

Post by **kangarolf** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:59 pm

think I'll go for the non weld one so I can remove it when I sell it if required.

Any opinions on the various servo kits..? Its to go on the existing drum brakes so nothing too 'hard' dont want to jam them open!

Rolf

Post by **aupickup** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:02 pm

again the jhl one, a bit more expensive .
better to go with discs i would have thought

Post by **kangarolf** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:22 pm

JHL is..? Could only find JLH online is it the same..?

Dont think I can afford the disc brake conversion just yet. Need to save up.

Rolf

Post by **Kevin** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:36 pm

Could only find JLH online is it the same..?

Yup thats the right lot

Post by **aupickup** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:37 pm

yes it is jlh

Post by **Alec** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:36 am

Hello Kangarolf,
I wouldn't fit a servo to the existing drum brakes, it is not necessary and will not improve your braking. (Drum brakes, have a self servo effect anyway). Just ensure that the brake system is in good condition. If you find that you need to spend money on getting the drums up to 100% then you might consider if it is worth going that route or to upgrade to discs. My wife's Traveller is on Spridget discs and does not have a servo fitted.

Alec

Post by **rayofleamington** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:17 am

Hi there
I was going to fit a servo on Riley, when it belonged to Gayle. The reason being that some drivers can't cope with the pedal force required in a standard moggy. The servo will greatly reduce the pedal effort required (it does not actually make the brakes better, just easier). There are remote servo's around very similar to the ones you can buy from minor specialists - i got a second hand one for £20 that came off a Mini (got it at a Mini show autojumble)
Disk brakes are by far the best upgrade for the brakes but that's not going to be cheap.

Post by **kangarolf** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:12 pm

Yeah I cant afford the disc brake conversion just yet. That £20 servo sounds perfect! The kits are about 60-90 quid from the specialists. Do you know which cars are suitable as donars..? There is an old mini in a local dump that I have been stripping slowly for bits..had the temperature gauge, the cylinder head (for unleaded) and a few bits and bobs. What minis have the right servos..? Any tips on installing them..?

Cheers
rolf

Post by **Wal** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:31 pm

Hi,
I can only talk from my own experience but I put a servo on my Morris and had it for many years, and quite frankly it was a right royal pain and caused me no end of grief. During the whole time I had my servo I had problems with the brakes on my Moggy. I replaced everything and eventually with no other ideas left I disconnected the servo and hey everything was better. I have not yet managed to take the servo out of the car as it is buried under the twin carbs but next time the head is off the servo comes out and I will do unspeakable damage to it before it goes in the bin. Yes I have disc brakes, yes I bought it brand new, yes I got it off a respected supplier and yes they told me it couldn't be the servo. I have a very modified twin cam minor that needs proper braking yet I would never ever go back to using a servo. It was a very painful and frustrating experience.

Regards,
Wal

Post by **_h_____** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:42 pm

I have had a servo on drums and disks, great if your wife drives the car. Some people need the extra assistance on the brakes. However, if you are getting a servo off a scrap car makes sure it wont over power the brakes, or you will be forever locking up.

Post by **Multiphonikks** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:14 am

I have yet had problems with my standard drum brakes. If your car is standard then i don't think there are too many problems. I wouldn't know about servo drums, but I've driven with servo disks before and they *ARE* a lot easier and quicker to use.

I've found that if the brakes are regularly checked (I tend to do a 3k service every 2k miles) then they're fine. And I use my brakes a lot. (Living where we do ensures a lot of motorway driving and there have been occaisions when standing on the brakes has been the only option, to which Hebe normally responds )

While we're on the subject of brakes... Does anyone else here use Cadence Braking on a non disk modded minor? I find it greatly increases my stopping power... (All that extra weight on the front wheels does wonders)

Post by **ColinP** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:48 am

Well, I haven't used cadence braking for ages!

Round Wokingham it's usually a case of just standing on the pedal to avoid the BM**s and other idiots. Usually there's a loud squeal from the tyres (louder than my car's horn).

It's useful on the rare occsions when you have poor grip on the road - ie the tyres lose grip. In the snow and ice, certainly, but with 145 radials and the reasonable surfaces (bumpy, wavy, but grippy) not really useful for general use.

Post by **Willie** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:43 pm

Cadence braking? I only use that method on snow or ice.

Post by **Cam** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:43 pm

What EXACTLY is Cadence braking??

Post by **turbominor** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:51 pm

when you press the brakes on an off rapidly to stop the wheel locking under max brakeing..

Bit like manual abs

Post by **Cam** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:57 pm

Ah right, yes I do that too from time to time (usually in the ice/snow but sometimes in the wet). Never heard it called that though..........