Traveller Restoration
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Re: Traveller Restoration
Long overdue an update, here the door has a colour coat...[frame][/frame]
1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
Re: Traveller Restoration
The body shell also has a complete colour coat and with the doors fitted was moved outside for wax injecting...[frame][/frame]
Taking advantage of the glorious weather we are enjoying...[frame][/frame]
And a gratuitous picture of youngest daughter...[frame][/frame]
Taking advantage of the glorious weather we are enjoying...[frame][/frame]
And a gratuitous picture of youngest daughter...[frame][/frame]
1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
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Re: Traveller Restoration
Looking very nice! I've finally finished my nearside so am ready to move to my boxing extension on the drivers side... so not too far behind you ;)
Grant, 23, Morris Minor traveller - Saloon. Merlin traveller 90% finished!
DSN Classics
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Re: Traveller Restoration
I used a combination of Waxoyl clear and Dinitrol ML for the box sections and cavities. I really like the creep that Waxoyl has and the Dinitrol is very thin so coats exceptionally well in confined areas...[frame][/frame][frame][/frame]
1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
Re: Traveller Restoration
The bodyshell is now in the corner of a shed, ready to have parts put back on as they are finished. It's much cleaner in here than in the workshop so it won't get dusty as it is rebuilt...[frame][/frame]
1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
Re: Traveller Restoration
H i Neil loks like a usefull simple spit could you tell me if i could fit one similar in a single garage, width and heightwise was it set up with the car with its wheels on and simply removed wheels to turn it?
Mark
Mark
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Re: Traveller Restoration
An amazing job your doing there, and your proposed mods sound very subtle yet useful. The car should come out as a very useable yet very mint minor.
Re: Traveller Restoration
I have received the wood and now the job of getting it to fit...[frame][/frame][frame][/frame]
1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
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Re: Traveller Restoration
I just recently re-wooded this Traveller for a couple we know.
The fiddliest job was fitting and shaping the gutter, I made up these from some Walnut to dress down the gutter flange after fitment.
Good luck with your project,it is looking good.
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The fiddliest job was fitting and shaping the gutter, I made up these from some Walnut to dress down the gutter flange after fitment.
Good luck with your project,it is looking good.
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Morris Minor Traveller 1961 Modified.
Austin 6cwt Van 1972. Teal Blue
Morris Minor Traveller 1961 Original
Austin A30 Van 1956.
Austin A35 Van 1960
What else is lurking behind those open doors.?.
Austin 6cwt Van 1972. Teal Blue
Morris Minor Traveller 1961 Original
Austin A30 Van 1956.
Austin A35 Van 1960
What else is lurking behind those open doors.?.
Re: Traveller Restoration
Meanwhile still lots of painting to do...[frame][/frame][frame][/frame][frame][/frame]
1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
Re: Traveller Restoration
These are some of the "chassis black" painted parts...[frame][/frame][frame][/frame][frame][/frame]
1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
Re: Traveller Restoration
Also started the engine rebuild. I managed to get a 1275 early Midget engine that had never been apart since leaving the factory. It showed signs of wear on the bearings and bores but nothing serious. I took the block to the machine shop to see if it would be enough to just deglaze the bores and change the rings. The crank was inspected and, with no measurable wear or damage, was good to go with mains, big ends and thrusts. I noticed when I removed one of the pistons that there was a broken ring and that had caused wear to the piston groove. Of greater concern was the fact that this was (one of the early) factory sleeved units and therefore not suitable for rebore. The liner is only 50 thou thick and so anything more than +20 might risk problems. After checking the wear, and provisional honing it was rechecked and consequently decided to fit new liners and (due to the damage on the piston) new pistons too. As the car will be used regularly, good quality (Nural) pistons were selected. I was advised heavily against using cheap "County" pistons! The camshaft and bearings were fine, but new followers were needed. As a matter of common sense the oil pump and timing gears/chain were renewed too.[frame][/frame]
Last edited by Neil MG on Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
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Re: Traveller Restoration
I've got a 1275cc ex Midget engine in mine, nice little modification and in keeping with the character of the car.
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels and waiting to be resprayed......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
Re: Traveller Restoration
Out of interest, what did you do about crankshaft ventilation? The Midget timing cover has a breather canister that fouls the Minor fan.jagnut66 wrote:I've got a 1275cc ex Midget engine in mine, nice little modification and in keeping with the character of the car.
1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
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Re: Traveller Restoration
The most common thing is to cut the breather down to give clearance on the fan and weld it back again.
You can also buy a spacer for the fan
You can also buy a spacer for the fan
Serial Morris Minor Owner and Old Vehicle Nutter
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Re: Traveller Restoration
Yes I saw a few cut and welded canisters and even a squashed one, but neither way looked like an elegant solution. Is there enough clearance to the radiator to safely use a spacer?
I am interested to hear if anyone has managed to get satisfactory breathing with a non vented cover? maybe I should post that question on the Technical Section.
I am interested to hear if anyone has managed to get satisfactory breathing with a non vented cover? maybe I should post that question on the Technical Section.
1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
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Re: Traveller Restoration
When I have it right, this one should be also a 1275 midget engine, from one on this guys:
http://morrisminorclub.nl/index.php/bestuur/het-bestuur
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/j1ev.jpg/
http://morrisminorclub.nl/index.php/bestuur/het-bestuur
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/j1ev.jpg/
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Re: Traveller Restoration
Hi,
Mine just has the breather on the rocker cover into the air filter, there never was any canister on the front of the timing cover on mine. Never noticed a problem and I drive mine on a regular basis.
(As always touching wood at this point! )
Best wishes,
Mike.
Mine just has the breather on the rocker cover into the air filter, there never was any canister on the front of the timing cover on mine. Never noticed a problem and I drive mine on a regular basis.
(As always touching wood at this point! )
Best wishes,
Mike.
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels and waiting to be resprayed......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
Re: Traveller Restoration
And you have a 1275 engine without the tappet covers?jagnut66 wrote:Hi,
Mine just has the breather on the rocker cover into the air filter, there never was any canister on the front of the timing cover on mine. Never noticed a problem and I drive mine on a regular basis.
(As always touching wood at this point! )
Best wishes,
Mike.
1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
Re: Traveller Restoration
i opened up the rear axle to check out the diff and found this in the bottom:
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It's the part that normally wears, but not usually that much! The car hasn't been on the road since 1980 and before that it went round the clock a couple of times so i was expecting some wear. I drove the car up and down the lane before I started the restoration and the diff seemed ok...
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This is the other side and what it should look like. This one was also pretty worn and they are both to be replaced. The side thrust bearings were fine with little sign of wear, which is really good as they are no longer available. I removed and checked the bearings and their faces looked ok, but not perfect, so new ones are in order.
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Everything else including all the gear teeth looked perfect, so the first thing to do was to get everything spotlessly clean. I used petrol followed by brake and clutch cleaner and an air line. It is also important to keep the bearing caps and shims so that they can be replaced exactly as removed, to maintain correct backlash. The end of the pinion shaft, nut and flange were also spot punched so that they could be realigned exactly to keep the correct preload on the taper bearings.
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The outer roller bearing races were carefully tapped into place. This was probably the trickiest part of the axle rebuild, as they have to be kept square.
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The larger of the two was particularly tricky. The final position is confirmed after tightening the flange nut...
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The diff was then reassembled. There is a certain sense of feel for the pinion stiffness and crown-wheel to pinion backlash. The pinion has resistance (without the seal) but no binding and the crown-wheel has a distinct backlash when dry that is virtually indistinguishable once a few drops of engine oil is added. Any suspicion of things not being right here means somewhat more complex measurement and adjustment. So I felt fortunate and happy that it is good for another couple of trips round the clock!
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It's the part that normally wears, but not usually that much! The car hasn't been on the road since 1980 and before that it went round the clock a couple of times so i was expecting some wear. I drove the car up and down the lane before I started the restoration and the diff seemed ok...
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This is the other side and what it should look like. This one was also pretty worn and they are both to be replaced. The side thrust bearings were fine with little sign of wear, which is really good as they are no longer available. I removed and checked the bearings and their faces looked ok, but not perfect, so new ones are in order.
[frame][/frame]
Everything else including all the gear teeth looked perfect, so the first thing to do was to get everything spotlessly clean. I used petrol followed by brake and clutch cleaner and an air line. It is also important to keep the bearing caps and shims so that they can be replaced exactly as removed, to maintain correct backlash. The end of the pinion shaft, nut and flange were also spot punched so that they could be realigned exactly to keep the correct preload on the taper bearings.
[frame][/frame]
The outer roller bearing races were carefully tapped into place. This was probably the trickiest part of the axle rebuild, as they have to be kept square.
[frame][/frame]
The larger of the two was particularly tricky. The final position is confirmed after tightening the flange nut...
[frame][/frame]
The diff was then reassembled. There is a certain sense of feel for the pinion stiffness and crown-wheel to pinion backlash. The pinion has resistance (without the seal) but no binding and the crown-wheel has a distinct backlash when dry that is virtually indistinguishable once a few drops of engine oil is added. Any suspicion of things not being right here means somewhat more complex measurement and adjustment. So I felt fortunate and happy that it is good for another couple of trips round the clock!
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1956 Morris Minor Series II
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD
1959 MGA 1600 Roadster
1966 Jaguar Mk2 3.8 MOD