Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
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Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
Earlier this year I bought 2 types of badge to fit on my Moggy - a Grill Badge from the Morris Register and a Badge-bar badge from the MMOC. Both were fitted to my Series II Traveller in March of this year.
Today, whilst working on the Traveller, I decided to relocate the grill badge to my recent purchase Series MM high-light saloon.
After struggling to put it on without taking out the rad, I was astonished to find that parts of the badge were lifting![frame][/frame]In this case the blue alledged "enamalling", which happens to be a layer of plastic.
I then went back to the Traveller to check on the MMOC supplied Badge Bar Badge - this too is falling apart but, in this case, all the white bits are coming off[frame][/frame]
These badges were not cheap and they have only lasted 7 months as opposed to some Morris's lasting 100 years!
Anyone else noticed that their badges are deteriorating?
Rather disappointed
Today, whilst working on the Traveller, I decided to relocate the grill badge to my recent purchase Series MM high-light saloon.
After struggling to put it on without taking out the rad, I was astonished to find that parts of the badge were lifting![frame][/frame]In this case the blue alledged "enamalling", which happens to be a layer of plastic.
I then went back to the Traveller to check on the MMOC supplied Badge Bar Badge - this too is falling apart but, in this case, all the white bits are coming off[frame][/frame]
These badges were not cheap and they have only lasted 7 months as opposed to some Morris's lasting 100 years!
Anyone else noticed that their badges are deteriorating?
Rather disappointed
'50 Low-light with 918 Side-valve engine,
'51 High-light with Side-valve 918 engine,
'55 4-dr with 803 engine,
'56 Traveller with 1098 engine.
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
very poor quality at the price I would expect proper enamelling
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
at the price you paid for those badges i would complain...
nothing seems to be made with any thought to quality
these days.
nothing seems to be made with any thought to quality
these days.
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
I got the sources round the wrong way - MMOC sold me the Grille Badge at £11.00, and the bar badge was also £11.00 + £1.00 p&p.
'50 Low-light with 918 Side-valve engine,
'51 High-light with Side-valve 918 engine,
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Thats interesting, I was going to buy one this month, but perhaps now I wont bother! I must admit I was already put off by the cheap looking gold plating but I did think they were at least proper enammel. Oh well I think Ill buy one of tthe nice black owners club badges instead, they are enamel and I left my last one on the little black car when i sold it.
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
Tommy, I know you did as it is still there, where I just added the Centenary badge, on the other side. Very nice Owner's club badge - a lot better than the pressed metal and plastic version I got for the Traveller's badge bar. You should be able to see the black badge on the little black car (currently known as "MM Sweetie") below[frame][/frame]
'50 Low-light with 918 Side-valve engine,
'51 High-light with Side-valve 918 engine,
'55 4-dr with 803 engine,
'56 Traveller with 1098 engine.
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
How true! We've got a major moan going on here;samuria wrote:at the price you paid for those badges i would complain...
nothing seems to be made with any thought to quality
these days.
http://mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=51776
That's strange R2, the damage doesn't look so bad from here!
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
Cheap tat not what you would expect for a centenary badge meant to last and adorn your pride and joy
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
I bought one of these ( radiator fitting) from the MMOC and a badge bar version from the Morris Register. Neither have been fitted yet and so I cannot comment on the "lifting" of the "enamel". However, if it is lifting, and the MMOC sell them as " enamelled centenary badges", then they are clearly NOT as described and as such are being mis-sold and you should be able to get your money back ( I am criticising here so I expect this to be removed at any minute!!!). Enamel will not lift under any circumstances ( it is, after all, glass!) and so these are NOT emnamelled as advertised.
Interesting to see that there has been little comment from moderators or regalia managers on this one!!!???
Interesting to see that there has been little comment from moderators or regalia managers on this one!!!???
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
I got a PM from the MMOC with an offer of replacements and for me to send back the 2 duff ones, once I get my new ones, to be looked at (the MMOC is working hand-in-hand on this one with the Morris Register). Maybe it is Euro glass (safety type and made of plastic to protect us )Coalmossian wrote:I bought one of these ( radiator fitting) from the MMOC and a badge bar version from the Morris Register. Neither have been fitted yet and so I cannot comment on the "lifting" of the "enamel". However, if it is lifting, and the MMOC sell them as " enamelled centenary badges", then they are clearly NOT as described and as such are being mis-sold and you should be able to get your money back ( I am criticising here so I expect this to be removed at any minute!!!). Enamel will not lift under any circumstances ( it is, after all, glass!) and so these are NOT emnamelled as advertised.
Interesting to see that there has been little comment from moderators or regalia managers on this one!!!???
'50 Low-light with 918 Side-valve engine,
'51 High-light with Side-valve 918 engine,
'55 4-dr with 803 engine,
'56 Traveller with 1098 engine.
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
Quality control a thing of the past
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We don't see everything ;)
I could edit the posts if you want?
I could edit the posts if you want?
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
Mine isn't starting to lift, but It has only seen the rain once or twice, whilst at the centenary itself, Could this be the cause of the problem? That said for £11 I would want a longer lifespan than a few months, a good few years is more acceptable.
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
Apart from the Saturday downpour at the International, the badges have not seen any rain - a bit of sunshine maybe. The traveller is normally covered with one of those expensive special shaped covers, that is supposed to breath (one-way) but manages to leach water and, recently, fine powder after some rain (about a week ago).
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'56 Traveller with 1098 engine.
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
Maybe they might be recalled as not fit for purpose ie outside use
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
I suspect it's not just 'rain'.
If you're following another car or driving cars in fairly heavy traffic (even worse in misty weather) don't forget the wide array of exhaust gases. Some of which will mix with the moisture in the air to create acids.
Partially unburnt fuel will also have effects on some plastics - so if you're following a classic car (anything with a carb) then if it's running rich your bodywork will be getting a mild spray of hydrocarbons.
It could be worse - if you've got a modern car, then avoid parking next to wonky glass skyscrapers..
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 94970.html
If you're following another car or driving cars in fairly heavy traffic (even worse in misty weather) don't forget the wide array of exhaust gases. Some of which will mix with the moisture in the air to create acids.
Partially unburnt fuel will also have effects on some plastics - so if you're following a classic car (anything with a carb) then if it's running rich your bodywork will be getting a mild spray of hydrocarbons.
It could be worse - if you've got a modern car, then avoid parking next to wonky glass skyscrapers..
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 94970.html
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
thats very left field
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
It's besides the point! The badges were designed to go on the front of cars, and other enamel badges get along just fine! So what if it is hydrocarbons? They're still not fit for purpose!
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Re: Morris Centenary Car Badges - not fit for purpose
I don't think thats what Ray was saying! I don't think anyone is saying they are?
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