Morris Minor Owners Club

So Basil is a SII, 1955, and he doesn't get out much, but I try and keep him true to period.
So, in a moment of lockdown boredom, I thought what about a period Fire Extinguisher?

Searching Fleabay, the old 'Pyrene' Pump action type that were around from about the 1910s to the 1960s and were seen everywhere, quite prominent on buses as I recall from my youth, tend to command a quite hefty price; especially if they have a mounting bracket. which few do.
But I noticed there is a Nu-Swift extinguisher that is of the 50s/60s, unlike the Pyrene model it is pressurised, not hand pumped.
They're still filled with Carbon Tetrachloride, which is Montreal Protocol 2010 prohibited chemical but there's still a lot of it around. I'd rather keep this filled than add to the Ozone depletion by emptying it. It used to be used widely in Dry Cleaning Establishments...
So I managed to get one for £30 and it arrived looking like this: This particular model has the pressurised container inside an external body, because the original model was a simple 'Strike Top' and it discharged until empty, but then the brought out this lever action model.
It's now cleaned up and ready to go in the car, with or without it's 70 year old innards.
I'm thinking I might mount it on the floor beside the drivers seat, I'm not sure yet.

Looks great! Can't say I've seen that model before?
I have a brass bodied Pyrene one I carry in the Morris but don't suppose it would work if needed!
(It's not the only one I carry)

Alan

There were about 4 or 5 on Fleabay last month. It's a little slimmer than the Pyrene Pumps, but slightly taller. It's about the right height to be floor mounted beside the Driver's seat, whereas the Pyrene pump would perhaps be a bit fat for there.
The Pyrene pump, if full of actual CTC, should work. I'd be tempted to try a small pump and see if it weeps out the nozzle, or try the filler cap. Just get a little liquid and see if it smells like the Dry Cleaners used to....
Fumes are quite potent so you'll soon know.

Just don't take a big sniff in case you pass out!

jagnut66 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:42 pm Hi,
An interesting point, I wonder how many of us carry one.
On the practical side would you need CO2 or foam?

A period one, like the one shown here, is a nice touch aesthetically though.
Best wishes,
Mike.

Most of those sold as 'vehicle' size are Dry Powder. A good extinguishing agent, just a beggar if you use it on a small fire inside somewhere as the powder is corrosive to electronics circuit boards etc and a devil to clean up. Dust gets everywhere.
There a very few foam ones on the market in smaller sizes, but not CO2 and the smallest you can get in CO2 is the standard 2Kg one.

jagnut66 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:42 pm
An interesting point, I wonder how many of us carry one.
On the practical side would you need CO2 or foam?

I'm sure we'd be amazed how many people don't carry one. Especially when you consider how many flammable materials and sources of ignition there are in an average vehicle!

Most of the small, single use extinguishers seem to be the 'Dry Power' type these days. CO2 and Foam extinguishers tend to be larger, so it depends if you have space in the vehicle to store and secure them. I wouldn't want a 6 litre Foam extinguisher flying about in a crash
On the practical side I suppose you may have a better chance of putting out a fire with a larger extinguisher.

I always thought that when heated, Carbon Tetrachloride created phosgene gas?

paul 300358 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:22 pm I always thought that when heated, Carbon Tetrachloride created phosgene gas?

Yes, but only to very high temperatures, you basically have to be incinerating the CTC, hence why incineration is not a recommended means of disposal. So not recommended to use it on a magnesium fire for example.

I still have a Halon extinguisher, super effective and leaves no mess but unfortunately not very environmentally friendly and were banned.
They work by swamping the area in the gas and eliminating the oxygen/air.

Alan

You can get the extinguishers refilled and serviced as they all have limited service life

Our previous car (1953 Series 2 Jethro) had a Minimax extinguisher mounted under the bonnet as the screen wash bottle and I believe one or two other members used the same idea to great effect.
Guess what the latest car Willum is going to be wearing soon?

From my Morris Minor 1000 BMC Approved Accessories pamphlet (from1968), you had a choice of two fire extinguishers to buy!

The big one, 9.5 x 1.5 inches in size, would have cost £3 0s 0d
The small one, 5.5 x 1.5 inches, would have cost the princely sum of £2 5s 0d

Interestingly, you could also have a choice of two different types of reversing light, and the choice of three different wing mirror designs!