So what do YOU want from the MMOC website?

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Re: So what do YOU want from the MMOC website?

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moggiethouable wrote:A security section is needed.
To provide preventative measures to back up the stolen section.
A very specific area for members only to log in and view types of security available.
Secret switches,
Fuel cut off switches,
Steering locks,
Window etching,
Component stamping,
Rotor arm removal,
etc:
Advice on reporting how said fitments can reduce insurance premiums.
But what stops a potential thief from becoming a member just to access such information.

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Well, in the case of,
etching windows,
steering wheel lock, disklok,
whether the potential tea leaf sees said on the website or not doesnt really matter.
Secret switches can go anywhere, yer average tea leaf hasnt the time to search around, as long as the owner is informed of the umpteen places they can go, again it doesnt matter.
I suppose my raison detre here is people are buying Minors, putting them on the road and getting them nicked, only then do they consider anti theft devices.
Really the process of course should be the other way round.
So.......if we had a section called "before you buy your minor"
Prevention is better than cure.
Ask anyone who may have had their pride and joy nicked if they wish they had fitted a disklok and I think the reply would be obvious.
Secret switches of course are not discovered by the perpetrator until he has broken the door lock.
My choice would always be the visible, etching £25.00 disklok £100.00
peace of mind £priceless.
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Just had an idea for an article in the technical section - pre MOT checks
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2 more lovely minors have been nicked in the past 2 weeks.
So when will we have a "before you buy your minor" column highlighting diskloks etc? :evil:
People are only taking notice of proper security when they get nicked.
So how about it?
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Re: So what do YOU want from the MMOC website?

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moggiethouable wrote:2 more lovely minors have been nicked in the past 2 weeks.
So when will we have a "before you buy your minor" column highlighting diskloks etc? :evil:
People are only taking notice of proper security when they get nicked.
So how about it?
I think its a great idea, and a section of the website already covers it. http://www.mmoc.org.uk/index.php?page=329

I have added an announcement to the cars for sale and the wanted sections as the "Stop Thief!" page linked above isn't the easiest thing to find
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Matt wrote:
moggiethouable wrote:2 more lovely minors have been nicked in the past 2 weeks.
So when will we have a "before you buy your minor" column highlighting diskloks etc? :evil:
People are only taking notice of proper security when they get nicked.
So how about it?
I think its a great idea, and a section of the website already covers it. http://www.mmoc.org.uk/index.php?page=329

I have added an announcement to the cars for sale and the wanted sections as the "Stop Thief!" page linked above isn't the easiest thing to find
What I need here is a 'like' button for Matt's post, but we don't have one. Hmmm, that'll be another addition to the list then! :lol:

Kidding aside, I'm going to get in touch with Those Who Must Be Obeyed and see if we can finally get started on this soon - bit embarrassed having started this thread off and not a lot happened since :oops:
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Less onerous T&Cs or lighter touch moderation.
This is the internet, if you put something on it you must be prepared to be upset by the responses you get.
This "say no evil" attitude to vendors removes one of the best elements of the internet, the ability for ordinary people to share information.

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MarkyB wrote:Less onerous T&Cs or lighter touch moderation
you can't really have one or the other?? TBH I think we let quite a lot go at the moment, only doing something when there is a complaint or it gets a bit silly!

I'm sure there are many many more threads we could delete/modify under the T&Cs :wink:
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you can't really have one or the other??
Why not?
I'm sure there are many many more threads we could delete/modify under the T&Cs :wink:
I'm sure there are too, it doesn't make it a good idea though.

It's not unknown for sites to be moderated out of existance.

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Post by lambrettalad »

How can we speed up the committee ? This post was first placed on the 20th Oct.2013 .That's a fair consultation time.
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Post by millerman »

With a quarter of a million pound turn over it is time the MMOC has a paid webmaster who will be to maintain the website which is a vital marketing tool not only to attract young people but there are many, many silver surfers which need to be kept interested in the MMOC by using the website and not necessarily messageboard.
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MarkyB wrote:
you can't really have one or the other??
Why not?
Because theres no point having rules if they are ignored
MarkyB wrote:
I'm sure there are many many more threads we could delete/modify under the T&Cs :wink:
I'm sure there are too, it doesn't make it a good idea though.

It's not unknown for sites to be moderated out of existance.
And thats my point! We could moderate an awful lot more of the posts that are on the forum for being in breach of the T&Cs - but as you said that would/could be counterproductive and kill the site. Its a balancing act between enforcing the rules and keeping the peace! Personally I think the moderation is actually pretty light, looking at the logs for the last fortnight or so the majority of "mods" have been moving mis-placed topics, deleting duplicates and mods/admin placing posts and immediately stickying/locking them (like I have done giving the security message in the wanted and cars for sale section).

Now, if you feel different about it thats up to you. Without completely ignoring the T&Cs or a massive re-write of them I don't think the moderation can get more relaxed...

As always, if anyone is anyhappy with moderation that has happened - feel free to PM me and I will TRY to find out what has happened and why.
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Another Morris Minor nicked, and still no column prominent on security.
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This is an open site for all to view - members, prospective members, and those who wish to "acquire" a minor without paying for it. If security aids are posted we will have no hope of keeping our cars safe. If anyone needs to know all they have to do is ask and they are usually answered via PM's which are secure from prying eyes!

There is a sticky at the top of the For Sale section pointing people in the right direction :wink:

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ASL642 wrote:This is an open site for all to view - members, prospective members, and those who wish to "acquire" a minor without paying for it. If security aids are posted we will have no hope of keeping our cars safe. If anyone needs to know all they have to do is ask and they are usually answered via PM's which are secure from prying eyes!

There is a sticky at the top of the For Sale section pointing people in the right direction :wink:
How about a "before you buy your minor " column.
I will stick my neck out by saying, a Minor with a Disklok fitted will only be nicked by towing.
A small, if any, number of Minors have been nicked by towing, because yer average tea leaf is a chancer, not a planner.
Owners are not getting the message regarding security.
I believe doing nothing is not an option.
We need a security column, on the home page.
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moggiethouable wrote:We need a security column, on the home page.
Yes it is covered there. But they are stating that it should be placed in a more prominent place such as the homepage (where more people will see it) and I do think myself it would be better on the home page and hidden in a place that people may only visit if they are looking for a car and so it is of no use to people who have owned their cars for x amount of years with no anti-theft devices or deterents fitted.

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ASL642 wrote:This is already covered here.

http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=54687
Yep and as it goes its okay.
Steering locks need to be prominently displayed, as does etching of glass which is a breakers deterrent,also it needs to be prominent on the home page with its own bold header, not hidden as it is now.
It is the most crucial piece of information a prospective buyer needs,its not reaching people in its current format, proof positive is the number of Minors still being stolen.
Anyone with a nicked Minor is too upset and lets face it, embarassed to say "actually I didnt fit anything to prevent the theft"
I stand by my conviction, steering locks, etching, secret switches, prevent theft and this site is not doing enough to get the membership fitting anti-theft devices.
If we are not part of the cure, we are complicit in the disease.
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It has probably already been mentioned, and I don't know if it is feasible anyway, but with almost 10 thousand posts on the Technical bit already, would an INDEX be possible? I feel a bit of a fraud asking about things that I am sure must already have been covered, but it would take me the rest of my life to read through that number of pages! And that is if I had started twenty years ago....
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Post by andyminor »

I have a disability would love to see how many others there are
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