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Morris minor XUR 19

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Hi Guys,
ive just purchase a Morris Minor which has been stored for 20 years, the reg is XUR 19, Talking to DVLA they have no record of it as its been off the road too long. Where can I find the history for this car so that I can obtain a V5 as it needs limited restoration and I need to drive it. :) Kev
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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Registration number issued August 1956 in Hertfordshire.
Do you have the old type log book with the car? Does the person you bought it off not have any past paperwork, tax discs, etc?
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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As above -search the car for an old tax disc/MOT - anything like that. Take pictures of the plates - and are the windows etched by any chance? Try Heritage for a Certificate . You should be able to apply for a V5 - others will know which forms to use etc. 'POMM Reg' is the expert on these matters - ask him !
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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The car came with no paperwork, mot or tax. So all thecomments are well received. thanks
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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If all numbers match, don't really need a HC.

Complete a V765 form and get an LoA from the mmoc

Quite easy if all okay, did 2 last month, just waiting on pick-up atm.
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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Surely the only way to know if the numbers match - is to get a Heritage Certificate?
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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You can be quite accurate on '50s stuff as each varient had its own body numbering
series - date/id the vehicle JUST by this number - although 1098cc's can be a bit
tricky.

Why anyone relies on chassis plates as 100% accurate nowadays,loony's!!
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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I was thinking of applying for a Herritage Cert but am wondering what happens if numbers don't tally with theirs ? :o
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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Why would they not ?
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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bmcecosse wrote:Why would they not ?
Just read too many horror stories about cloned cars I think !!! :lol:
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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Having spent since last september having been through the same scenario let me wish you good luck!I stupidly bought a Volvo that had been in long term storage and had no documents ignorantly assuming it would simply be a matter of filling in a form and getting a new V5.Big mistake!As others have said an old V5 or tax disc and there would be no problem. I had a call from DVLA yesterday to say that my FIFTH application has been successful.My V5 with age related(even though the car is still sporting its original UK plates),historic registration has been sent out.During this nightmare process I have had to:
Get in touch with Volvo in Sweden to get a printout of the cars build details
Get a certificate from a recognised owners club verifying the above details
Take pics of the car to accompany the forms
Pay a £55 fee(this really irked me bearing in mind the loss of the records are the fault of the DVLA,why should I have to pay for that)
Suddenly on return of the third failed application I then had to get in touch with HMRC and fill in another set of forms as the loss of my records meant there was no proof that import duty had ever been paid on the car!
Also on the return of the third application I was informed I had to get an MOT on it.I didnt plan on getting an MOT until I had completed restoring the car,this resulted in a very large expenditure(after standing for over 30 years it needed complete brake system,cooling system,battery,tyres etc etc)
Application was refused because the MOT garage put the body number instead of chassis number on the database,this didnt match the number on the HMRC application(both numbers were on the form but in different places),this meant the car had to go BACK to the garage for a new MOT as the garage quite rightly werent prepared to risk a VOSA unannounced inspection on a car that wasnt present!

I havent included everything in the process,suffice to say there has been more. I certainly would never buy another car without a current V5!
Good luck
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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Quite a story! But part of the problem seems to have been the overseas car make. POMMReg seems to have smoothed the way for Minors - hopefully it will go well. But I still suggest a Heritage Cert can only help to confirm the car is what it claims to be. If numbers don't match - then indeed it may be a stolen/ringer - which opens up all sorts of challenges.... :oops:
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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Theres truth in that however its not right that extra requirements were added between refused applications.The MOT and import duty conditions should have been mentioned with the first refusal bearing in mind the average 4-5 week turnaround to process an application.The fact that I had included my phone number made no difference,they didnt use it.Part of the first refusal was out of ignorance I put down its original reg number(this was refused because I had no old tax disc or V5 to tie the reg to the car).All I had to do when the forms came back was to throw one of them away and put the lot back in the post(5 weeks remember),if they had rang me I could have told them to do that.Luckily this last time they must have felt sorry for me because I was given direct contact to the person handling it.
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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Mick, I did offer to help with the Volvo - you donated a PC to POMM, so my time/work would
have been free - DVLA have always been good with me.
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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I appreciate what youre saying ChrisI could be wrong but I can't see what you could have done in this case.And if you could have helped that only means that the whole system is wrong!It shouldnt need specialist knowledge or contacts that Joe Bloggs doesnt have access to.
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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tysonn wrote:I appreciate what youre saying ChrisI could be wrong but I can't see what you could have done in this case.And if you could have helped that only means that the whole system is wrong!It shouldnt need specialist knowledge or contacts that Joe Bloggs doesnt have access to.
Mick
Still believe you should have passed it to me, looked like you went around it the wrong way to me.
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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So how would you have done it Chris?Very intrigued.Are there other ways?Email if you prefer.
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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Do you still have the car?
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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Yes Chris.The V5 just arrived.Better SORN it quick before they fine me.
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Re: Morris minor XUR 19

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When I was trying to obtain some information about my car, UNK. which was also registered in Hertford in 1955.
I contacted the local authority by phone, they were very helpful, and for £5 they sent me a photo copy of the original hand written entry showing the Reg number, date and first owner.

Might be worth a try, sorry I do not have the phone number now, I obtained it from internet.

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