reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

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reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby martin418 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:38 pm

hi i am helping a fellow club member with a rebuild of a 67 2 door saloon , he purchased new rear light bases and basically they don't fit !! the casting is 5 - 10mm to wide ,hangs over the gasket , the lenses has a 3mm gap at the top and the curve is not even close to the wing , before i mention where they came from has anyone else tried fitting new base's and found a supplier which fit , i gave up and put the old ones back 100% perfect fit , also the chrome is very poor looking , they are going straight back but i bet they have '' never had a problem before '' :D

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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby LobbyLudd » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:31 pm

Presumably that is the larger sized later rear light pattern. The universal problem is that the original base moulding was cast in 'Masak' metal , a particular alloy recipe , as you may already be aware.
My originals were also very badly pitted so any autojumble I attend has always meant a search for better condition old stock . I was finally successful in picking up a very much better pair with far less noticable pitting (but at a premium cost). Good condition used ones seem to be as rare as Hens Teeth.
Don't know why a decent acceptable quality reproduction replacement cannot be made in some alternative material that could have an effectively applied chrome effect. New metal cast replacements now appear to be well over the £100 mark, seeming to compare somewhat out of line in comparison with the earlier and lesser expensive smaller pattern units .
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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby irmscher » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:43 pm

Most of the repro stuff is rubbish and is of poor quality

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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby burnham28 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:19 am

A pair of original rear lights has just sold on fleabay for £244.91. Wow!!
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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby martin418 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:51 pm

blimey !! £ 244.91 :o :o

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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby irmscher » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:56 am

I cant believe why anyone would dream of paying that price :o :o

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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby ManyMinors » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:42 am

And the seller admitted to "a couple of marks here and there".
I think the price just goes to show how high the demand actually is for these items. Somebody thought them worth that much.

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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby BrianHawley » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:04 am

irmscher wrote:I cant believe why anyone would dream of paying that price :o :o
I guess if you're rich and you want them, you buy them. Tough for us mere mortals as it forces the going rate up, but life is not fair.
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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby dp » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:21 am

LobbyLudd wrote:Presumably that is the larger sized later rear light pattern. The universal problem is that the original base moulding was cast in 'Masak' metal , a particular alloy recipe , as you may already be aware.
My originals were also very badly pitted so any autojumble I attend has always meant a search for better condition old stock . I was finally successful in picking up a very much better pair with far less noticable pitting (but at a premium cost). Good condition used ones seem to be as rare as Hens Teeth.
Don't know why a decent acceptable quality reproduction replacement cannot be made in some alternative material that could have an effectively applied chrome effect. New metal cast replacements now appear to be well over the £100 mark, seeming to compare somewhat out of line in comparison with the earlier and lesser expensive smaller pattern units .
I don't know if this helps but I had a similar problem with new rubbers so I cut most of the unseen rubber away so that what remained was more willing to be stretched out to the correct shape. Ie instead of a big patch of rubber with 2 small holes, I had a half inch ring of rubber. It's a bit of a fiddle keeping the rubber in place while tightening down the light fittings but it's do-able without assistance or strength.
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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby irmscher » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:32 am

Who was the seller of these ??

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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby martin418 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:45 am

they came from bull motif

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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby irmscher » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:13 am

That's not good :(

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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby Rasputin » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:21 am

What about the plastic chrome ones they used to make?

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Re: reproduction rear light bases on a 67 saloon dont fit !!

Postby martin418 » Thu May 18, 2017 12:53 pm

update after speaking to the supplier 'never had a problem before ' they make base gaskets to fit the bases so against my wishes the owner bought a pair and they nearly almost fitted :roll: the lenses fit is still useless but i give up not my problem !!!!


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