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NMP Plates?

Postby RobThomas » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:48 am

Who was after an NMP plate? I've found a good one for them to copy.

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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby firedrake1942 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:47 pm

Me rob pretty please .

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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby RobThomas » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:34 pm

All sorted and in the post! :D
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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby firedrake1942 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:00 pm

Star. Now for the interesting bit .......

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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby Ian46 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:40 pm

Just wondering if there could be a limited 'run' of these if all goes according to plan?

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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby RobThomas » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:44 pm

It's in the hands of Firedrake.

There is a security implication with regards to 'ringing' but since you can buy a whole new bulkhead chassis plate and a second-hand logbook off of ebay... :x This might prove to be a chance for the club members to show our ability police ourselves?

Might be worth liaising with POMMReg for confirmation of the numbers before they get sold on, Firedrake?
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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby firedrake1942 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:33 pm

Rob, will do, that is a good security check! If we can produce enough good quality blank samples, Uttlesford is happy to supply at cost.

Perhaps anyone interested could PM me with expressions of interest / details inc. an e mail and be prepared to satisfy V5 / Chassis No photo . I will check with Pom Reg and supply when we have produced. We are still at the mold / press making stage at present.

I will update the thread as we make progress, but thanks go to Rob for supplying an off vehicle template.Without that we would likely be relying on a rather corroded one. Taking impressions from good ones on cars has proved less than successful thus far.

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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby Nickol » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:55 pm

Could you inform what the significance of an NMP plate is ??? I at least an not knowing
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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby firedrake1942 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:17 pm

It has the car numbers etc which match these on the strip on the NS bulkhead. and is found on NS engine tie plate by the bumper stay. Many cars had this tie plate replaced when the NS chassis leg rotted and was replaced and the NMP (Nuffield Metal Products) plate lost in the process.

On early cars it was screwed to the bulkhead

Whilst not essential, it is one of those bits that when seeking originality, whose absence niggles a little. (or a lot)
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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby POMMReg » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:50 pm

Cab "codes" reverse stamped - except some late Commercials - so a bonus for security.

Good idea if Rob can stamp numbers prior to despatch, eradicate any chance of abuse.

Well over 150 "codes" used!!
Further investigations uncovered it was an inside job!!

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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby firedrake1942 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:34 pm

We could do that, as we are looking for the right dies at the moment . Good idea Pommreg!

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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby firedrake1942 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:58 pm

Just an update and thanks to Rob Thomas for the generous loan of the plate. We have safe receipt of the 'donor' NMP plate. Our branch 'engineer' - (his man-cave has to be seen to be believed) has cleaned it up a treat, as suggested by Rob and it is now gleaming. He is sourcing the medium to create the mould and the press plates this week but as he is also carer for his wife it is a case of fitting the working between that obvious priority.

The final plate blanks will be produced without numbers and without the corner holes so as to match the later type of plates attached to the tie plate rather than the bulkhead. He is also sourcing the correct punches for the reverse and front punched numbers / letters and any orders will be punched with these supplied by owners as described above.

I will update the thread with progress.

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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby RobThomas » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:30 am

Any news, Firedrake? Just checking that you've still got the old NMP.

No hurry so long as I know it is safe. :D
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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby SteveClem » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:29 pm

Is Firedrake ok? Hasn't posted lately. :cry:

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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby palacebear » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:32 pm

Got an email from firedrake today. He's fine. Just taking a bit of a break from things :)
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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby RobThomas » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:20 pm

It has gone very quiet. Any news? I'm keen to see what process gets used to make the stamps for pressing the shapes in.
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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby firedrake1942 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:35 pm

Success at last! After a week in which the laser cutters for the NMP blanks told me that they had cut over 200 blanks 10mm short and I had only 40 of the right size....just about to order some more tin plate when I checked the original against the 'correct' plates to find that they were, in fact 10mm too long. A frantic phone call to the steel fabricators to make sure they had not ditched the 'short ones.....
Well, we test pressed 10 this morning and they are brilliant. We always acknowledged that we would not get the definition of the originals but they do come close and Ray is stamping my and his numbers onto our plates ready for body colour and fixing. I will be stamping out the rest next week (Right arm will look like Popeye's) and Ray will be starting to stamp those who requested them stamped. We will only be doing those who have supplied addresses for post so far. As soon as they are done , along with the orders for blank plates, we will be in touch re postage and payment via bacs.
Apologies for this long process, but we wanted to get it right and after the debacle where the 250 mild steel plates were delivered galvanised (AAAARGH) making them a) thicker and b) harder i is a joy to have some good news to report.
If you have expressed an interest and not either given Z number etc details and / or postal addresses, please do so asap via dadmjsdm@aol.com as we have 213 orders so far and only 240 blanks.

Rob, we will get the original back to you as soon as we have finished
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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby POMMReg » Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:52 pm

If owning a Minor with a "BM" prefixed id plate - with the exception of early AP LCVs - this is NOT the number stamped on the NMP plate.

Tourer's WITH a "BME"/"BMT" id plate will have a lower nos. Everything else higher.

This is the sub total figure of each bodyshell, need to do a few calculations before getting the NMP plate stamped with the approximate number.
Further investigations uncovered it was an inside job!!

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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby RobThomas » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:04 pm

Chris. Any idea what 'NWL' in Gaydon would have had on it? The original was removed during the factory resto.
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Re: NMP Plates?

Postby POMMReg » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:07 am

Logucally, Z.9838/9 501

BM 501
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