Save a Moggy? Can a newcomer do it

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Re: Save a Moggy? Can a newcomer do it

Postby mowogg » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:37 pm

I suspect many who slate gasless welding have never really tried.

I have welded up 2 cars with gasless. I find it far more practical for occasional use. I can go many months if not years between jobs.

The quality of welding wire does vary so its certainly worth investigating this if you are having issues.

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Re: Save a Moggy? Can a newcomer do it

Postby geoberni » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:58 pm

parahandy 15 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:15 pm
here is mine to date.. Have no idea where the second picture came from, it's not mine!
Ummmm ..... So why didn't you remove it?? :-?
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Re: Save a Moggy? Can a newcomer do it

Postby parahandy 15 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:44 pm

I did try, but it appears to be permanently fixed to my pic. (welded perhaps) The image did not appear on the preview. If anyone can suggest how to delete it I would be very grateful.

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Re: Save a Moggy? Can a newcomer do it

Postby stuffedpike20 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:30 am

I have Mig welded with shielding gas outside for decades without a problem, as long as it is not blowing a gale. It is expensive to turn the gas flow up, but if you use the larger cylinders, not too expensive.
I have used no/gas mostly on farm machinery where the appearance of the weld does not matter. It gives a scruffy bead, even on thick metal, and it is hard to see the arc because of the smoke . I suspect the slag is corrosive, and you must clean off every scrap of it before painting.
I suspect many budding car restorers have tried a no/gas mig, and been put off welding forever.
I do agree that buying a gas, gas/less mig is a good idea, and that you could finish a job if you ran out of gas, but I would not want to leave too much gas/less weld on my Minor.
Why would you want to put a weld on top of another weld if the first weld is ok?

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Re: Save a Moggy? Can a newcomer do it

Postby kennatt » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:23 am

Why would you want to put a weld on top of another weld if the first weld is ok? simply when welding thicker metal (Not talking about thin car bodies,but heavier steel as in some car chassis section) the correct procedure is to grind each edge to an angle to form a V section when both butted up ,then one bead in the bottom of the V the next on top at the edge and another on the top at the opposite edge. Therefor fillling the V top to bottom and forming a weld as thick as the metal. its the only way if you don't have a commercial welder that can take thicker wire and higher settings to get full penetration to the underside of the steel rather than just sticking the two together.

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Re: Save a Moggy? Can a newcomer do it

Postby stuffedpike20 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:00 am

Yes, not many V butt welds needed on a Minor! I get your point.

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Re: Save a Moggy? Can a newcomer do it

Postby ndevans » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:46 pm

In my view, anything is possible if you have the time, the money, and are willing to learn. Go ahead, try, but be patient, be willing to take advice and learn from your mistakes, and above all, be prepared for a lighter wallet!
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