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1275 engine wanted

Postby moggiegeek » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:50 pm

Is anybody in a position to sell a 1275 engine only - delighted if it included back plate clutch assembly etc..Even more delighted if in good condition......
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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby philthehill » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:02 pm

Whilst wanting a good check over this is what I would be looking for and includes the Midget gearbox which is a great improvement over the Minor gearbox.
One checked over all ready to bolt in with no real modifications.
I personally would sell the twin carbs and manifolds and fit a 1/2" HS2 and suitable manifolds.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-MIDGET-12 ... :rk:1:pf:0

Whilst it may not be cheap I can see potential and the possibility of getting your money back if no longer required.
Open to offers also.


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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby Admin » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:37 am

Chuffin' 'eck - is that what they're fetching? I didn't realise what a fortune I'm sitting on!
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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby philthehill » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:32 am

Unfortunately the days of cheap 1275cc 'A' Series engines especially Midget/Sprite engines have gone.


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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby mgdavid » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:01 am

that ebay engine & box looks completely standard - until you see the double row pulley behind the fan, not sure what's going on there but it's very odd. Any idea, Phil?
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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby philthehill » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:30 pm

The dual V groove pulley between the cooling fan and the water pump was used for driving the early air pump fitted to emission controlled engines.
The air pump was on later engines was driven off the crankshaft pulley which had a double 'V' pulley.
The emission control system did change over the years and latterly the air pump put air directly into the combustion chamber vis special inlets adjacent to the spark plugs.
The cylinder head may have been changed as it does not have the combustion chamber air inlets or it may be that the pulley was the only one available at the time. The early air pumps though did not inject air directly into the combustion chamber. The engine history may never be known - but the engine and gearbox I consider to be in the spectrum of current going rates for these items.
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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby mgdavid » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:14 pm

<smacks palm to forehead>
of course! I'd forgotten about the export specs, especially California.
With rotten breaker cars and major components becoming ever-scarcer there are a few people importing containers of similar from the US, I expect this has come from one of those.
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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby The Issigonis Kid » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:15 am

1275's are silly money now - I've been looking for a year - prices are £500-700 for a rebuild project or engine of unknown condition but complete and £1000 for someone claiming its used but checked over and should be OK. I rang a local engine refurbisher and was told the cost for rebuilding a RWD A-series engine would be £1200. As a result of this, decent 1098s from a running car have now increased in value to £350.
Considering this, spending £500 on a project 1275 then a further £500 on a disc brake conversion to stop it is making a DIY zetec conversion look very tempting.
Theres a market for someone to do a small engine conversion that bolts onto the ribbed gearbox e.g something like a Micra or Yaris. But then you have the expense of electronic ignition.


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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby philthehill » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:00 am

Here you are and not silly money either...………...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-Midget-en ... :rk:2:pf:0

All complete as well and open to offers.

If you want some thing similar but cheaper you will still be looking this time next year.

The reality is that this is the value and cost of a 1275cc 'A' Series engine (especially Midget/Sprite) these days and they aint going to get any cheaper.

A small engine conversion will be in the same price spectrum - nothing come cheap these days.

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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby The Issigonis Kid » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:33 pm

Cheers Phil. Saw that this morning and thought it looked reasonable. If only there was a guarentee it didnt need a rebuild as I neither have the funds or skill. Need to hope my 948 keeps going.


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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby irmscher » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:26 pm

You could always put in a mini 1275 quite cheaply :)

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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby philthehill » Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:25 am

irmscher
Can you please clarify?

Do you mean the full 1275cc Mini with gearbox making it transverse and front wheel drive or just using the 1275cc engine?

Converting the 1275cc Mini engine to in line and able to fit the Minor is going to cost as much as purchasing a 1275cc Midget engine.

What ever way is decided it is going to cost money and that is a fact.

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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby BrianHawley » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:28 am

philthehill wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:25 am
irmscher
Can you please clarify?

Do you mean the full 1275cc Mini with gearbox making it transverse and front wheel drive or just using the 1275cc engine?

Converting the 1275cc Mini engine to in line and able to fit the Minor is going to cost as much as purchasing a 1275cc Midget engine.

What ever way is decided it is going to cost money and that is a fact.

Phil
Has anyone ever done an A-series FWD moggie? Morris 1300 running gear maybe?

Can’t recall having seen one.

Wonder how it would handle.
Brian

Image "Jodie". '67 Traveller, 1275, discs, suspension mods etc.

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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby philthehill » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:33 am

Brian
Several Minors have been converted to front wheel drive not all using the 'A series though.
A search of the web will give examples.
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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby BrianHawley » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:19 am

philthehill wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:33 am
Brian
Several Minors have been converted to front wheel drive not all using the 'A series though.
A search of the web will give examples.
Phil
Hi Phil.

Have seen those. But no A series.

Just fantasising about what a 1980s Minor might have looked like if they had continued the range.

My personal preference is that upgraded Minors should use parts from within the marque. Although I must guiltily admit to having a Japanese gearbox :)
Brian

Image "Jodie". '67 Traveller, 1275, discs, suspension mods etc.

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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby philthehill » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:55 pm

Brian
There is a Morris traveller that has been converted to front wheel drive - I will see If I can find a link.

There is a previous thread which reported that the car had been for sale in north London - no more details at present but others may have additional details.

See viewtopic.php?f=1&t=65625&p=596033&hili ... or#p596033

As regards gearboxes - I use a modified Ford 2000E four speed gearbox in my Minor as nothing in the (including the 1275cc SC/CR box) BMC range would cope with the power especially standing starts.

Phil


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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby irmscher » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:01 am

Phil I have a fwd morris minor1275 A plus automatic disks and oil cooler etc :) .I put it on here Two years ago for £850 no interest so I have kept it unless someone wants to buy it :D

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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby BrianHawley » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:32 am

philthehill wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:55 pm
Brian
There is a Morris traveller that has been converted to front wheel drive - I will see If I can find a link.

There is a previous thread which reported that the car had been for sale in north London - no more details at present but others may have additional details.

See viewtopic.php?f=1&t=65625&p=596033&hili ... or#p596033

As regards gearboxes - I use a modified Ford 2000E four speed gearbox in my Minor as nothing in the (including the 1275cc SC/CR box) BMC range would cope with the power especially standing starts.

Phil
Thanks Phil, that’s interesting to know.

I guess Ford is the best way to go with high strength gearboxes these days. (How many BHP are you running these days?)
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Image "Jodie". '67 Traveller, 1275, discs, suspension mods etc.

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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby BrianHawley » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:35 am

irmscher wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:01 am
Phil I have a fwd morris minor1275 A plus automatic disks and oil cooler etc :) .I put it on here Two years ago for £850 no interest so I have kept it unless someone wants to buy it :D
Wow! What rear suspension did you use?
Brian

Image "Jodie". '67 Traveller, 1275, discs, suspension mods etc.

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Re: 1275 engine wanted

Postby philthehill » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:55 am

Irmscher
Many thanks for the info regarding your front wheel drive Minor.

Brian
Ads regards the power output of my engine.

1380cc - 140bhp at the flywheel as built but nothing under 5000rpm but would rev to 10000plus rpm.
to make it more tractable I changed the full race cam to a 649 for better low down torque and now around 130bhp.
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