Series MM wheel rims required

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Series MM wheel rims required

Postby gtt1951 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:08 pm

I've been trying to put new tyres on my low-light but some of the wheels are very rusty inside.
One is very badly pitted and I don't think I'll get it smoothed out enough, even for inner-tube fitting.
Anyone got any of the early Series MM rims that they would wish to sell?
George.

'51 Hi-light with Sidevalve 918 engine,
'55 4-dr with 803 engine,
'56 Traveller with 1098 engine.

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Re: Series MM wheel rims required

Postby RobThomas » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:35 am

Probably got some some. How urgent? I only get a couple of days off per month and today it is chucking it down! Garden is like a swamp. Just west of Cardiff.
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Re: Series MM wheel rims required

Postby gtt1951 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:19 pm

RobThomas wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:35 am
Probably got some some. How urgent? I only get a couple of days off per month and today it is chucking it down! Garden is like a swamp. Just west of Cardiff.
Hello Rob,
At the moment I don't know how many I will need in total as not all the rims have been shown to me without a tyre fitted. The one that was handed back to me to try to smooth out is quite pitted around the valve exit hole and this one will need replacing.
I'm going back to the tyre fitting place, shortly, to see what they made of the other leaker I took in. The car is currently standing on 1 axle stand and 2 tyres with the original tubes in and 1 tyre holding pressure on the new tubeless valve (they have wrecked the other 3 valves I had bought, when trying to put tubes back in).
Regards, George.

'51 Hi-light with Sidevalve 918 engine,
'55 4-dr with 803 engine,
'56 Traveller with 1098 engine.

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Re: Series MM wheel rims required

Postby gtt1951 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:35 pm

I have 2 rims back and they were both bad.
Rim 1 - work started on trying to smooth it out, but still lots of pitting
Rim 1.jpg
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Rim 2 - just got it back today and this is why it was leaking from the new fat valve area
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I know that my local tyre place was doing me a "favourable deal" to fit my own crossply tyres but I would have thought they would have had the sense not to progress, given the internal state of the rims!

I would like to thank Rob and Carlo who have responded to my plea for help, but I need to do a head-count of the rims that won't clean up.
Another set-back on this low-light project.
Rim 1 before going back to the tyre fitters
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George.

'51 Hi-light with Sidevalve 918 engine,
'55 4-dr with 803 engine,
'56 Traveller with 1098 engine.

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Re: Series MM wheel rims required

Postby gtt1951 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:28 pm

I've done some work on the 2 rims that are currently off the car, but one still has some high spots (can't remove with just a powered steel wire brush).
Below is Rim 2 images as "before", "brushed" and "painted" - note the "lumps/high spots"
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Rim 1 fared a bit better, but the metal around the valve hole has thinned, so a tubeless valve can't be fitted.
2 stages rim 1.jpg
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The inner face of Rim 1 was a bit rusty, so I painted that too (the l/h image shows it after brushing).
2 stages rear of rim 1.jpg
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Just to get the car off an axle-stand, I'm having a new tyre + inner tube + plastic guide, fitted to Rim 1.

Looks like I will need to replace some rims, so I will contact Rob and Carlo by PM.

Regards, George.

'51 Hi-light with Sidevalve 918 engine,
'55 4-dr with 803 engine,
'56 Traveller with 1098 engine.

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Re: Series MM wheel rims required

Postby philthehill » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:18 pm

The rim pictured above (rim 1) does not appear to have had the burr removed around the inner edge of the valve hole. It needs to be removed or it will cut into the tube and may cause sudden deflation.
I would suggest that a couple of pieces of rim tap or similar (plus your plastic valve protector) and of a suitable size to cover the undulations is placed over the tube valve stem to guard against chaffing of the valve against the sharp edges of the hole and the undulations.
Make sure that the valve stem of the tube is absolutely central in the hole and does not end up at an angle as with those sharp edges they could tear the valve from the tube.
I do hope that you are able to find one or more wheels as that rim 1 is in poor condition.


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Re: Series MM wheel rims required

Postby gtt1951 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:03 am

Phill,
Thank you for the guidance. As I'm not doing the fitting, myself, I'm relying on the fitter to get the alignment correct.
With the plastic guide in place what can go wrong :roll:

Will be collecting that wheel this morning and another member will be supplying more rims (but we won't know their state until the tyres are off).

Many thanks, George.

'51 Hi-light with Sidevalve 918 engine,
'55 4-dr with 803 engine,
'56 Traveller with 1098 engine.

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Re: Series MM wheel rims required

Postby gtt1951 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:20 pm

Well the wheel has been fitted back on the car but, alas, the fitters did do a bit of damage to the plastic protector shroud - a piece of the lip is missing! It also looks to be at a slight angle.
Damaged new shroud.jpg
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I think I'll have to find another company to do any future work, even though all the additional work was gratis.
A fellow member is going to look out 4 rims (from his storage) and these can then be prepared, the tyres removed from the existing wheels and refitted - fingers crossed.

At the moment, I won't be driving the car around the block, just in case, as one of the other tyres has been fitted with an old tube and no shroud. The 4 wheels are all currently holding pressure - the worst rim is just languishing in my poly-tunnel.

Regards, George.

'51 Hi-light with Sidevalve 918 engine,
'55 4-dr with 803 engine,
'56 Traveller with 1098 engine.

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Re: Series MM wheel rims required

Postby philthehill » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:29 pm

Oh dear. :cry:

Even free and gratis the work should be done correctly & without damage.



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