Changing to halogen
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Changing to halogen
Hi,
Does anyone know if you can just buy halogen sealed beam headlights and fit them straight to the 3 point connector or do you have to change to whole wiring system as one of my old non halogen headlights has stopped working and I know it's the sealed beam unit that's the problem. If not then can anyone direct me to where you can buy the old sealed beams online?
Thank you very much in advance
Tez.
Does anyone know if you can just buy halogen sealed beam headlights and fit them straight to the 3 point connector or do you have to change to whole wiring system as one of my old non halogen headlights has stopped working and I know it's the sealed beam unit that's the problem. If not then can anyone direct me to where you can buy the old sealed beams online?
Thank you very much in advance
Tez.
Re: Changing to halogen
The halogens are straight swop. For the cost - may as well do the upgrade - sealed beams are not inexpensive these days!
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Re: Changing to halogen
Did the swap last year, and wow, what a difference
Made me ask myself the question as to just how I used to drive at night when I was a teenager trying to follow the glimmer from those electronic candles.
Made me ask myself the question as to just how I used to drive at night when I was a teenager trying to follow the glimmer from those electronic candles.
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Re: Changing to halogen
Hi, Here are some halogens from BM, http://www.morrisminorspares.net/shop_item.php?ID=4879. I was able to buy mine from my local motor factors.
You may need to buy the connector and wire it in, again your local motor factor may have one on the shelf. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/27114680 ... 80&ff14=95
Be careful buying the ones from eBay as most come with a sidelight built in, if you fit them the sidelight will need to work for MOT purposes.
You may need to buy the connector and wire it in, again your local motor factor may have one on the shelf. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/27114680 ... 80&ff14=95
Be careful buying the ones from eBay as most come with a sidelight built in, if you fit them the sidelight will need to work for MOT purposes.
Richard
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Re: Changing to halogen
As long as you have a working sidelamp - that's enough! The ones in the headlamps don't need to work. Whoever told you that??? I still have sealed beams on my Trav - and they are perfectly good for the speed of the car! I use them regularly at 5am on dark mornings - on my way to 'light up' for the day......
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Re: Changing to halogen
Roy, maybe i didnt explain myself properly, it is from my understanding from posts on the forum that if a car is fitted with additional features such as forms of lighting then they have to work to pass the mot.
Also when I asked this question at the garage where my minor is tested he confirmed this and said that If I had fitted halogens with integrated side lights he would need them to work for the mot. The reason I had had this conversation was because I fitted the lights between mot's and it failed due to alignment issues which I had to rectify.
Also when I asked this question at the garage where my minor is tested he confirmed this and said that If I had fitted halogens with integrated side lights he would need them to work for the mot. The reason I had had this conversation was because I fitted the lights between mot's and it failed due to alignment issues which I had to rectify.
Richard
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Re: Changing to halogen
Well - he's wrong - as long as you have the original sidelights - that's all you require. You don't need TWO side lights on each side. However - I do think the integral sidelights are better - and if you make them work - it means you can convert the original lights to be 'indicator' only. Perhaps orange bulbs inside the clear lenses - something like that.
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Re: Changing to halogen
Wipac Quadoptics are the ones to go for. The type with provision for sidelights usually has a hole in the reflector with a blanking plug when side lights are not required.
The additional lights refers to reversing, rear fog, indicators if trafficators are fitted.
The additional lights refers to reversing, rear fog, indicators if trafficators are fitted.
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My TR7 reversing lights have never worked - passes MOT ok....they don't have to work, and I have no use for them - so have never bothered to investigate. Rear fog warning etc if fitted - must work. Most of the halogen units have a little clear window for a sidelight to shine through - it's fitted on a holder external to the headlamp reflector - and of course - leaves no route for moisture to enter the reflector, which is good! I have these also on the TR7 -and the lack of a sidelight on them - has never been questioned.
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Re: Changing to halogen
I brought a halogen conversion kit from my local factors for my self built car.
I had gone to enquire about buying sealed, but they were no longer available.
The only differences I had to the sealed beam was the glass of the unit is flat against domed as in the sealed beam, other then that mine was a straight swap.
I had gone to enquire about buying sealed, but they were no longer available.
The only differences I had to the sealed beam was the glass of the unit is flat against domed as in the sealed beam, other then that mine was a straight swap.
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Re: Changing to halogen
Depends on the make of light, Wipacs are curved as originals
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Re: Changing to halogen
Has any one tried the" Crystal Halogen Headlight lamp" ? do they provide any better light on the road compared to the normal halogen conversion kit?
Re: Changing to halogen
I'm not sure they provide the correct beam pattern - could be trouble at MOT time. They will also not 'look right' on a Minor - they certainly look really silly on a Mini!
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Re: Changing to halogen
Production of sealed beam units stopped a couple of years back I think. (How many modern vehicles use 7" round headlights even then they will all be halogen so its only the fast diminishing aftermarket so no surprise really) I guess stocks are running out though you may find some on a shelf at a motorfactors if lucky...MechanicMichael wrote:I brought a halogen conversion kit from my local factors for my self built car.
I had gone to enquire about buying sealed, but they were no longer available.
The only differences I had to the sealed beam was the glass of the unit is flat against domed as in the sealed beam, other then that mine was a straight swap.
Wipac halogens and some Lucas ones have a curved glass and look better in a Minor. The ones Minor specialists tend to sell are slightly curved which is better than flat...
You can now get Halogen bulbs to fit the older Lucas 700s pre focus bulb headlights (original on pre 1964ish Minors)if appearance is that important to you.
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Re: Changing to halogen
Plenty of sealed beams still available in LHD land
For pre focus headlights you can get the P45T base H4 bulbs. They're not too common but they're easy to find on the internet. I'll probably go for those when my round bulbs burn out.
Have one on the bike and the difference is substantial.
For pre focus headlights you can get the P45T base H4 bulbs. They're not too common but they're easy to find on the internet. I'll probably go for those when my round bulbs burn out.
Have one on the bike and the difference is substantial.
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Re: Changing to halogen
Well of the ones I have seen on eBay some are E marked and some are not but claim to pass the MOT test. But yes I agree they don't quite look the part.bmcecosse wrote:I'm not sure they provide the correct beam pattern - could be trouble at MOT time. They will also not 'look right' on a Minor - they certainly look really silly on a Mini!
Re: Changing to halogen
Is it legal to have a halogen headlight on the nearside and a sealed beam light on the offside or must both lights be the same?
Mike
Mike
Re: Changing to halogen
It's probably bad practice, no? Halogens are not expensive, may as well have a matching set.
Re: Changing to halogen
I was told years ago that if the headlamps were uprated the Dynamo should be changed for an alternator. Is this still the case or are modern halogens ok with a dynamo?
Re: Changing to halogen
They don't use much(if any) more power than a sealed beam unit so yes a good dynamo will be fine.