Series MM Engine Number Location

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Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby POMMReg » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:09 pm

As the topic title suggests....

WHERE is this id plate located, and can one be replicated using
reversed stamping?

VERY important atm, so any help greatly appreciated.

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mike.perry » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:20 am

The engine number is usually stamped on a circular brass plate riveted to the block behind the dynamo. The plate can also be found on the flywheel housing at the back of the engine. On USHM3 engines it is also stamped on the face of the block in front of the cylinder head. I will try to get some photos
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby POMMReg » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:08 am

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby smithskids » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:20 pm

Try this for size :D smithskids[frame]Image[/frame][frame]Image[/frame]First pic shows engine number, second shows brass disc under dynamo.

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby POMMReg » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:29 pm

Thanks

Guy in Malaysia needs to have engine id to register the car.

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mike.perry » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:38 pm

PM me his contact details, his car may already be on the Register
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:20 am

POMMReg wrote:Thanks

Guy in Malaysia needs to have engine id to register the car.

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Hi guys.
I am from Malaysia and in the process of restoring my tourer.
The circular brass plate on my engine is missing and i need one in order to clear the car from trouble by authorities.
So if anyone knows of any contact who can replicatebthe brass plate,do let me know.
thanks

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:21 am

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:26 am

My engine[frame]Image[/frame]

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mike.perry » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:45 pm

Scrape the paint off the top of the block above the water pump blanking plate, it may be stamped on there.
Can you send me the details of the car, chassis no etc, it may be on my records. Do you know the engine number?
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:18 am

I have checked..nothing stamped on it.
we checked everything before repainting the engine.
My engine and chasis as below
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby TvdWerf » Fri Oct 30, 2015 11:25 am

sometimes the number on the top is gone after a revision, but one of my engines has a re stamped number on another place.
When you know the number for sure, it is only look at the engine if they have put it somewhere else.
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Fri Oct 30, 2015 11:40 am

TvdWerf wrote:sometimes the number on the top is gone after a revision, but one of my engines has a re stamped number on another place.
When you know the number for sure, it is only look at the engine if they have put it somewhere else.
hi .
i have looked for the number everywhere but no luck.
only saw the tiny hole where the rivette goes in for the circular brass plate.
any idea if the brass plate can be re made ?

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby POMMReg » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:33 pm

Why do Malaysia require a matching engine number to issue a registration - all other numbers match?

Would they accept a letter from the MMOC to confirm all is legal?

Had a similar scenario for one in the USA - that was settled by a brief explanation and a letter.

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mike.perry » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:36 pm

You have an engine number, it may not be the same engine as you have now but the authorities do not know that. If you can enlarge the photo of the engine disc then an engraver should be able to copy it. Problem solved.
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby POMMReg » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:41 pm

Are these reverse stamped?
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mike.perry » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:28 am

[frame]Image[/frame]
Here is a closer view
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby POMMReg » Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:36 pm

mike.perry wrote:[frame]Image[/frame]
Here is a closer view
May be easier to fit a blue replacement plate id - square and less complicated?

Personally, I'd use a brass key fob with appropriate engine number stamped - riveted in and "aged".
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby busguy » Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:38 pm

If some engines have it stamped on the front of the block, then why not get it stamped on there anyway.
While that bare metal stamping is rusting/ageing, ready to be painted and rediscovered, continue to try and find/create a similar round plate to fit the other number position. Must be something around is similar.


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