Series MM Engine Number Location

for those with Series MM sidevalve cars produced between September 1948 and February 1953

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby POMMReg » Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:02 pm

mike.perry wrote:You have an engine number, it may not be the same engine as you have now but the authorities do not know that. If you can enlarge the photo of the engine disc then an engraver should be able to copy it. Problem solved.
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mike.perry » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:55 pm

I do not suppose that the authorities know what the engine number plate looks like, as long as they do not read this topic!
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby POMMReg » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:04 pm

mike.perry wrote:I do not suppose that the authorities know what the engine number plate looks like, as long as they do not read this topic!

Thank gawd it ain't 9MUH 370
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby TvdWerf » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:59 pm

Don't forget the revisions, I have one engine with a re-stamped number ;)[frame]Image[/frame]
And I know also engines with a separate revision plate mounted on the backside.
Who will tell this is not original?
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:31 pm

As for now,the car is registered without any issues.
I anticipate problems if i decide to sell the car as i need to send in for inspection in order to do the owner transfership.
During the inspection,the officer will check the chasis and engine number to see if it matches with the ones in the document.
Problem with my engine is the engine number is missing.
I was lucky enough that when i bought the car,the rules were not so tight and somehow the officer passed my car.
Unfortunately,at present they are very strict and if certain numbers did not match as per documents,the car will be blaklisted and deregistered.
I can let that happen as this car maybe the only less than 10 remaining in Malaysia and to date,i have spent in a lot of money restoring the car.
I am hoping to replicate the brass plate and rivette it back the engine block.But before that maybe place it under the fender of my daily used car and let it age a bit before finally rivetting to moris engine block.

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:35 pm

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:36 pm

mac75my wrote:[frame]Image[/frame]
Thats the brass plate i took out from my spare engine.

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby TvdWerf » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:57 pm

mac75my wrote:[frame]Image[/frame]
Wow, my original engine number is 123046, so yours is a 1951 who is produced a few hours after mine :D[frame]Image[/frame]
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby BLOWNMM » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:43 pm

Hi Guys
On all of my USHM3 motors the engine number is stamped on the rear flange that the gearbox bolts to.

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mike.perry » Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:59 pm

There is your answer, tell them that it is between the engine and gearbox and would they like to remove gearbox to inspect it.
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:53 pm

TvdWerf wrote:
mac75my wrote:[frame]Image[/frame]
Wow, my original engine number is 123046, so yours is a 1951 who is produced a few hours after mine :D[frame]Image[/frame]
Hi.
The engine number just above the water pump panel,is it originally punched over there or was it ere done at a later time?
If it was an original place,i might as well punch over the same place and will need to show some proof to the authority that it is an original location

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby colin addison » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:40 pm

The village I live in has a Motor Club which owns a vintage Ford AA Recovery lorry. Many years ago now this needed licensing and the chap looking after it cut the number off an AA badge and rivetted it onto the bulkhead. That's been its number ever since!!
As long as officialdom has a number its happy.
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mike.perry » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:28 pm

Decide where you are going to have the engine number then copy the photos with the number in that position as evidence of the location.
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby BLOWNMM » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:27 pm

Hi Guys
I suspect the number 123046 stamped on TvdWerf's motor may not be the original. All of my numbers stamped on the deck behind the water pump cover were not aligned but 'higlypigly' as shown on my pics, and with an asterisk before and after the number. This was done to stop falsification by additions to the original stamped number.
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby TvdWerf » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:12 pm

BLOWNMM wrote:Hi Guys
I suspect the number 123046 stamped on TvdWerf's motor may not be the original. All of my numbers stamped on the deck behind the water pump cover were not aligned but 'higlypigly' as shown on my pics, and with an asterisk before and after the number. This was done to stop falsification by additions to the original stamped number.
Cheers Bob
I have 4 engines here, 2 of them have the number on the front at this place, one of them at the mounting from the starter, and number 4 had a revision, so the number on top at the waterpump cannot be visible because of that reason.
Number 123046 was just visible after the revision, I can understand the not visible one had more rust on the top.
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby TvdWerf » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:18 am

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This one has him also on the top, engine 78916 no nuimber found, but he is to clean on that place to say a number was there or not.[frame]Image[/frame]
Engine number 81806 has him on the top from the starter mounting with the prefix CS[frame]Image[/frame]
But on the backside only the last number(s)
For the 81806 only a 6, engine 78916 only 16, and 145221 only the 21...[frame]Image[/frame]
The 123046 is already in the car, so I don't know ;)
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby TvdWerf » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:30 am

BLOWNMM wrote:Hi Guys
On all of my USHM3 motors the engine number is stamped on the rear flange that the gearbox bolts to.

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Looks like this one had a 2 digit also, just like my engines, and maybe later the complete number?
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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:21 pm

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:39 pm

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Re: Series MM Engine Number Location

Postby mac75my » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:43 pm

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