MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby don58van » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:39 am

Hi Mike and Declan

Mike: That isn't the measurement I had in mind (sorry if I wasn't clear enough), but I think with the photos and measurements you have kindly provided, Declan probably has enough data now.

Declan: Do you have all the measurements you need?

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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby Declan_Burns » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:51 am

Mike,
Don,
Thanks a million. I think I have everything I need. If the aperture dimension 78.61mm is true, then I have found a small "pudding bowl" that will fit the aperture perfectly. The bezel and the glass also fit perfectly. It is just a tad too deep but that is easily solved. I will make a 3D housing and compare the results.
That leaves several options open. Either I fit the 40x8mm round quartz movement or the Ford stepper motor which is even smaller and runs off the car battery. The screenshot shows both the 3D printed and the pudding bowl versions with Mike's dimensions. The mounting bracket is only a draft at the moment. Thanks again for all your help-much appreciated!. Any further suggestions welcome.
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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby jagnut66 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:42 am

You're welcome Declan.
Sorry if I misunderstood you Don.

Don't forget to post us up some pictures of the completed article in position in the lid.
Best wishes,
Mike.
1954 Series 2 on axle stands needing more welding......

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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby Declan_Burns » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:10 am

Mike,
I don't have a lid. I will have to post it to somebody to test fit it.
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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby don58van » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:07 am

Declan

I am looking forward to seeing the final product. I'm sure it will have all the finesse we have come to expect from you.
I will have to post it to somebody to test fit it.
You will have to make sure that is a 'boomerang' (as we say here in Oz) :wink:

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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby jagnut66 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:06 pm

I don't have a lid. I will have to post it to somebody to test fit it.
Hi Declan,
You're located in Germany aren't you?

So if anyone from Germany reading this can help I'm sure Declan would be very grateful :D .

I would offer but the postal cost of returning it after puts me off.
Best wishes,
Mike.

PS: If it's not Germany I will edit my post accordingly. :wink:
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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby Declan_Burns » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:48 pm

Mike,
Yes, Germany is correct and I would cover the cost of the return postage if I can't find someone over here. Our postage is actually quite cheap compared to most countries and I have contacted the MMRD (Morris Minor Register Deutschland) and will wait and see what comes of it. I could post such a clock cheaper to e.g. New Zealand than UK, Holland (which is nearly walking distance!-though not for me) or any other EU country. Sending it back from say New Zealand, Oz or USA would break the bank.
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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby jagnut66 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:10 pm

Okay, let me know if you need to.
You're right about postal costs though, some of them beggar belief!
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1954 Series 2 on axle stands needing more welding......

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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby Declan_Burns » Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:07 pm

Here's the photos of the finished clock. I received the printed dials on Christmas eve.I just have to find out if it fits as planned. It is easy to make adjustments to a 3D printed housing. I am quite happy with the way it has turned out so far. I just have to make the u shaped fixing bracket.
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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby jagnut66 » Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:01 pm

Looks good.
Best wishes,
Mike.
1954 Series 2 on axle stands needing more welding......

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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby les » Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:46 pm

‘Made in Germany’ on the bottom, would have been a nice touch !! :D That would make in unique.


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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby jagnut66 » Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:04 pm

‘Made in Germany’ on the bottom, would have been a nice touch !! :D That would make in unique.


:lol:

It might but I think the people that this will appeal to will want one that looks original when in place.
Though you could slip one in and see if anyone notices..............
Of course a reproduction 'Smiths' car clock stamped up 'Made in Germany' could be said to be a sad sign of the times we live in......... :(
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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby don58van » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:39 pm

Declan

That is a really nice job (as expected).

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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby smithskids » Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:18 pm

Very neat, could fancy one myself!!

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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby RobThomas » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:59 am

Rev counter and water temp gauge next?? :D
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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby Declan_Burns » Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:04 pm

Rob,
Maybe doable, What do they look like?
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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby RobThomas » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:57 pm

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I'll try to find some better pics. Mine was 'made' in the same way as yours but based on an original owned by Carlo P.

I posted the designs on here a while ago but found that someone had copied the designs and was freely selling them on the inetrnet. NOT COOL! The drawing work was done by Gryf Ketcherside in the US. Very generous bloke.
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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby Declan_Burns » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:02 pm

Thanks to a tip from Don I managed to win the auction for an original glove box door on eBay so I won't have to send the clock to somebody to test fit it.

Rob,
I agree with you. Copying someone else's designs and selling them freely on the internet is not the done thing but that is the world we live in and it won't be getting any better. I made the housing to fit around the quartz movement, the bezel and the glass. Then I made the dial to fit the housing. At least a 3D modelled housing is not that easy to copy and it took quite a few test prints to get it all to fit. I certainly will not be selling them freely on the internet. Like the MG clocks that I do I have only ever made them for fellow enthusiasts.
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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby Declan_Burns » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:52 pm

The glove box lid that I got on eBay has just arrived.
It fits perfectly!
Thanks for all the assistance!
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Declan
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Re: MM & early SERIES 2 GLOVEBOX LID CLOCK

Postby jagnut66 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:23 pm

You've done a really nice job there Declan.
Best wishes,
Mike.
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