1948 MM arrived

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1948 MM arrived

Postby RichardBarnes » Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:42 am

Hi there,
I thought I'd share some pictures of my newly acquired car, a 1948 series MM 2 door saloon.
I'd love to get more history, I do know its a December 1948 car, first registered in Victoria in April 1949, long boat journey no doubt caused the delay. It was first registered NA888. Sadly in Australia we cannot retain old numbers, especially when moving state.
It has interesting early features such as the rear light, no vents for windscreen demisting, no heater.
The USHM2 engine is original too, and lacks water pump and oil filter.
I drove it 20 miles yesterday and it was a delight. Needs some recommissioning after a 10-year rest, so will report my newby attempts to refurbish the brakes and suspension rubbers. It's so original and rust-free I won't upgrade anything, such as the 7" front brakes, only maintenance. When I see the rust MMs people tackle in the UK I feel guilty how easy we have it here.
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1948 Series MM, 1970 Traveller

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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby RichardBarnes » Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:45 am

More pics.
I'm fascinated by the earliest cars, does anyone know how many 1948s are out there and how many have the very early rear lights?
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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby ManyMinors » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:50 am

That is a beauty. Very few early cars in the UK now. I suppose the MM Register is the only source of information really?
Our climate and all the salt that was put down on our roads during the long winters didn't help the survival of old cars. Cars quickly became of little value once a few years old and because of low values, owners didn't want to spend money on repairs, so older cars soon became worthless AND in poor condition so it was only the very keen who kept old cars in good condition. Even 50 years ago an MM was a rare sight on UK roads.

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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby jagnut66 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:02 am

Very, very nice! :D
Good luck, you soon pick things up and there are plenty on here who will help you with anything you're not sure of.
Best wishes,
Mike.
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels and waiting to be resprayed......
1955 Series 2: Traveller: "Elsie May" -- On the road and enjoying her 'as is' for now but I see work ahead......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)

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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby alanworland » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:13 am

Looks Very Nice - enjoy!

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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby RobThomas » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:27 am

Nice!

Still got the rubber bits on the battery stay, the wooden battery rails and still has wire-wrap hose clips. Those bits aren't common over here. The coil and battery clamps would be on my list of things to look out for. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

Any chance of a photo of the top and bottom surface of the gear stick knob? Has been the subject of debate for years. :D
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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby JohnV » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:46 am

Richard

What a lovely and superb example. Truly, congratulations on acquiring the car. The degree of originality is remarkable.

I must admit, along with some other early cars, photos like these will be most helpful with restoration of my April 1949 'USA' Tourer which was also originally maroon.

Can you tell if that's original paint? I ask because the original maroon (which I think may have been a shade or two darker, but very hard to tell in photos on the Internet) was known to fade or "bloom" after time in bright sunlight, leading to many of the 1948-50 maroon cars being repainted.

What do you know of the car's history before yourself?

best, jv.
I have two Minors in upstate New York. One is the 1961 Traveller my dad bought new that year in London, where I was born. It's had a hard life but is still running cheerfully at 54K miles. The second is the oldest Minor confirmed to survive in North America, a LHD high-light Tourer built in April 1949. It's a total basket case, but will be restored over the coming years.

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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby RichardBarnes » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:08 pm

I'm going to have to ferret around behind the firewall (bulkhead) to check the correct shade. I think it was resprayed 20 years ago; it always was maroon. It's actually a very dark marron, bergundy wine colour. I had a maroon B Morris in the 1970s and it was much redder.
Photo of gearknob on way, but I see it has raised relief and a milled edge. Richard
Finally, it's running very sweetly but are electronic replacements for points/condenser worthwhile?
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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby JohnV » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:13 pm

RichardBarnes wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:08 pm
I'm going to have to ferret around behind the firewall (bulkhead) to check the correct shade. I think it was resprayed 20 years ago; it always was maroon. It's actually a very dark marron, bergundy wine colour. I had a maroon B Morris in the 1970s and it was much redder.
That was my thought too. The bits of original maroon paint I've found on mine (which was largely stripped to primer, sprayed black, then sprayed a bad version of Romain Green, probably 50+ years ago) were much darker than most photos of maroon Minors I see.

I like the "burgundy wine colour" description. Very appropriate.
I have two Minors in upstate New York. One is the 1961 Traveller my dad bought new that year in London, where I was born. It's had a hard life but is still running cheerfully at 54K miles. The second is the oldest Minor confirmed to survive in North America, a LHD high-light Tourer built in April 1949. It's a total basket case, but will be restored over the coming years.

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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby RichardBarnes » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:45 am

Here are a couple of pics of the gear knob as requested. It has a real patina of age, so may well be original.
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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby RobThomas » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:06 am

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So, the top one in this pic is a likely candidate. I think the raised digits are all worn away.

Thanks for the pictures. very helpful. :D
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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby RobThomas » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:10 am

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Not far off. TMS4EK Snap On Speedbrace handle.
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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby RichardBarnes » Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:13 am

Now that I've been driving my 1948 MM for a month, I've now received its Heritage certificate, which confirms she's a December '48 model, and all the numbers (engine, rear axle body, chassis, key) are correct, as is the colour. At the risk of getting a bit too nerdy, I'm curious if anyone knows if the door seal (pictured below) is the correct Sorbo I read about in Ray Newell's book?
Thanks folks.download/file.php?mode=view&id=15644
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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby Scott » Fri May 07, 2021 1:12 pm

That looks to be Bob Terry's old MM, I'm sure he's was #1125. If so, it made it's way to NSW about 10 years ago then seemingly disappeared.
The Sorbo door seal is basically round sponge rubber so it looks like it might be a similar material on your car.
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Re: 1948 MM arrived

Postby RichardBarnes » Sat May 08, 2021 6:22 am

Yes it is Bob and Lorraine’s old car. Bob sadly passed away last year. I spoke to Lorraine and she sent me photos of its restoration in the 1980s. It’s doing great service, took it to the beach last weekend! Do you know the car?
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