prop shaft/drive shaft

for those with Series MM sidevalve cars produced between September 1948 and February 1953
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prop shaft/drive shaft

Postby manlyvaleaussie » Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:23 pm

Does anyone have a prop shaft/ drive shaft for a Series MM Morris Minor, different to all the others, photo attached.
Thanks,
Paul Follett manlyvaleaussie
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Re: prop shaft/drive shaft

Postby Mick Lynch » Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:02 pm

Not sure what you mean by different .

Here’s two I have.
The silver in the Nuffield type from my series mm
The rust is the BMC type from a series ii

Both cars have the older Nuffield type back axle
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Re: prop shaft/drive shaft

Postby philthehill » Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:26 pm

The MM has a drive flange at the rear of the gearbox whilst the Ser 2 has the sliding joint. They are not interchangeable.


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Re: prop shaft/drive shaft

Postby manlyvaleaussie » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:17 pm

Mike,
it is the Series MM one that I am interested in, the one that has been cleaned up but it looks a little worse for wear, any idea of price?

Thanks,

Paul Follett manlyvale aussie

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Re: prop shaft/drive shaft

Postby sirrom918 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:08 pm

Paul,

Here in the UK companies such as Bailey Morris will manufacture one-off brand new Hardy Spicer prop shafts for the likes of late 1930's Austin 7's and Morris 8's etc. The 1939 to 1948 Morris 8 Series E Hardy Spicer prop shafts are very similar in specification to Series MM Minor shafts though the overall length may differ. The Morris 8 Series E and Series MM Minor use the same Hardy Spicer K5-L1 needle bearing journal unit (55 AssY, 58 AssY and 59 in the illustration below). The 1945 to 1952 MG TC and TD sports cars also use the same Hardy Spicer K5-L1 journal units and there are lots of MG T Type specialists in the USA (for example: 'From The Frame Up') that may be able to suggest similar prop shaft manufacturers in the USA that would build a new shaft to your specification. The illustration below is of a 1939 to 1948 Morris 8 Series E prop shaft.

https://baileymorris.co.uk/?gclid=EAIaI ... gKnrfD_BwE

https://baileymorris.co.uk/heritage-and-speed

https://fromtheframeup.com

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Re: prop shaft/drive shaft

Postby sirrom918 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:36 pm

Paul,

Here's an image of Section 18 'From The Frame Up' catalogue describing the items they can supply for the MG TC Driveshaft / Prop Shaft. The six figure part numbers in the far right hand column link to the same parts together with illustrations on Moss Motors site - link below.

Note they can supply for the MG TC prop shaft (which may be very similar to the Series MM) - two new flange ends (bolts to both gearbox and differential), a new yoke, new U/J's, new greaser and new bolt sets.

https://mossmotors.com/driveshaft-assembly-2

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Re: prop shaft/drive shaft

Postby doughicks » Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:11 pm

Paul,
I have one here in Canada. It is missing the cork seal, part # 129 . I would think this could be made or purchased from Moss Motors.

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Re: prop shaft/drive shaft

Postby manlyvaleaussie » Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:13 pm

Doug,
I did send a PM but I'm not sure you received it, so could you please indicate the overall condition of the drive shaft, specifically if the yokes and flanges have been damaged where the u-joints are installed, for example has someone hammered on them and so distorted them.
Thank you,
Paul Follett manlyvaleaussie

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Re: prop shaft/drive shaft

Postby doughicks » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:08 am

Paul,
Received your pm message but cannot seem to pm you back. The shaft has not been hit with a hammer. Overall condition is fair to good.
Trying to figure out how to pm you.

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Re: prop shaft/drive shaft

Postby RobThomas » Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:43 am

I wonder if the late 1500cc MG Midget one could be lengthened?
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Re: prop shaft/drive shaft

Postby philthehill » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:37 am

Why not get a prop-shaft made?
I had one made for when I fitted the Ford gearbox.



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