Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

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Re: Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

Postby Matt » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:52 pm

I know I was head of the curve, but I got my 1st Jab on the 5th May (age 36) and 2nd jab on 16th June...

My twin however is still waiting for the 2nd one and is still a few weeks away
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Re: Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

Postby Bowie69 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:36 pm

Monty-4 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:06 am
Finally got my second dose, was quite a wait for those in their thirties.

Still feels premature to de-mask and risk hurting others when only ~50% of the population are vaccinated. I read the higher R rate of the Delta variant means we'll need to be at over 80% coverage (that includes immunity from infection, but lets choose to risk as few people as possible) before we can think about herd immunity.

Hardly patriotic or nice to endanger others over a dislike for a little bit of cloth on your face when inside public spaces.
This recent antibody survey shows we have 92% people with antibodies, and therefore resistance to the disease:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... tafortheuk

...and this shows that 69% of the adult population (kids won't be vaccinated unless vulnerable) are double-jabbed:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

....and 88% have had one jab.

No idea where 50% comes from?

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Re: Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

Postby Monty-4 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:32 pm

54% including under-18s.
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Re: Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

Postby jagnut66 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:51 pm

Lets hope we've seen the last of restrictions and lockdowns.
Mind you, as the numbers who have been vaccinated once and / or twice continues to climb the powers that be will have less and less excuse for them anyway.
Plus, to misquote the PM, if we don't unlock now then when?? For some it seems there will never be a right moment.
However, there also will never be a situation where we have 'zero Covid', so we are going to have to learn to live with it.
Vaccine combined with 'herd immunity' have to be the way forward.
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Re: Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

Postby Bowie69 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:58 pm

Monty-4 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:32 pm
54% including under-18s.
To count the people that are never going to be offered the jab is somewhat disingenuous.

Besides, the antibody survey says 93% have protection.... kids make sup more than 7% of pop.

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Re: Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

Postby Monty-4 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:49 pm

Disingenuous implies intent to deceive, which isn't very nice. Such is the nature of discourse on the internet, though.

Good news on the antibodies, lets see what the level of protection that gives against against developing symptomatic COVID-19. That isn't a given, according to the US CDC at least, one might even call it disingenuous to suggest as much.
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Re: Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

Postby les » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:36 pm

I’ve got a feeling that some thing are here to stay, an example is a local council refuse tip near me, and possibly further afield. A booking is needed on line to get a date and time slot, if another trip is required it has to be at least one month from the first, quite likely increasing the practice of fly tipping. However Its an opportunity to control people, authorities of a certain persuasion won’t give that up easily. Time will tell.

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Re: Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

Postby Bowie69 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:08 pm

Monty-4 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:49 pm
Disingenuous implies intent to deceive, which isn't very nice. Such is the nature of discourse on the internet, though.
It's a figure being bandied around by the doom-mongering press, so, I wasn't targeting you with the accusation of deception, but the press, apologies.

They do love a good dose of fear-mongering in the morning.

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Re: Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

Postby Clayton James » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:01 am

You should never refuse to get the anti-covid vaccine, as what they say is the battle of the unvaccinated versus the new variant of covid. Some countries are on lockdown again, Australia extended the two weeks lockdown yesterday.

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Re: Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

Postby Nickol » Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:38 am

Notwithstanding that not all countries in the world have reliable statistics, Australia is in comparison hardly worth mentioning. The hot spots in the world are USA, indonesia, Brazil, india and UK. The latter being the most prolific in Europe.

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table
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Re: Who's had the Covid vaccine? Anyone going to refuse it?

Postby geoberni » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:15 am

les wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:36 pm
I’ve got a feeling that some thing are here to stay, an example is a local council refuse tip near me, and possibly further afield. A booking is needed on line to get a date and time slot, if another trip is required it has to be at least one month from the first, quite likely increasing the practice of fly tipping. However Its an opportunity to control people, authorities of a certain persuasion won’t give that up easily. Time will tell.
Every Recycling Centre operator (generally the County Council, unless you Live in a city) seems to have made up their own rules on booking.
Ours was 3 appointments in a 2 week period, same day is needed, but now booking is not required.
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