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- Minor Fan
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Re: Engine weights
Ethical decisions do play a part but the price is important too
There's a place in Wales that will deliver for 77p/litre (providing you buy 1000 litres). Other than that we've been buying from Tesco (currently 80p/l) and Asda (83p/l) for our old Merc, but she only does 35mpg so having a diesel minor doing about twice that would be great
If one of the smaller french diesel engines will fit they do pretty well for efficiency, the 1.4 holds the world record doing 103mpg although I imagine I wouldn't have the patience to drive that efficiently
There's a place in Wales that will deliver for 77p/litre (providing you buy 1000 litres). Other than that we've been buying from Tesco (currently 80p/l) and Asda (83p/l) for our old Merc, but she only does 35mpg so having a diesel minor doing about twice that would be great
If one of the smaller french diesel engines will fit they do pretty well for efficiency, the 1.4 holds the world record doing 103mpg although I imagine I wouldn't have the patience to drive that efficiently
Philip, Lynda and the cars.
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Re: Engine weights
Blimey, what old Merc? a bullet proof S class, that was built for some dictator?
My 95 C class 220 gets 45 mph every day of the week, and will consume at least a proportion of veg oil, I've never tried it on pure.
AND it is leaking diesel from the pump!
As to the question of engine weight, I knew someone who put a Ford V6 in a Traveller, when I said that's a heavy lump to put in there, he said I just wound up the torsion bars some more, wasn't a problem!
My 95 C class 220 gets 45 mph every day of the week, and will consume at least a proportion of veg oil, I've never tried it on pure.
AND it is leaking diesel from the pump!
As to the question of engine weight, I knew someone who put a Ford V6 in a Traveller, when I said that's a heavy lump to put in there, he said I just wound up the torsion bars some more, wasn't a problem!
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Re: Engine weights
Its an old 300TD estate, the ones which became the E class. Being a 3 litre she's a little thirsty but will run off pure veg oil with no conversion, although we tend to cut it with just a little diesel to protect against cold nights!
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Re: Engine weights
Cheapest I've seen veg oil recently is 98 p/litre - in Aldi. You sure about these 80/83 p prices ??
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Well indeed - if your prices are right. To stretch the thread out slightly further....... has anyone tried adding veg oil to a petrol car - to eek out the v expensive petrol ? Wondering what % could be used before smoke became too 'intrusive' ??
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Re: Engine weights
It would just gum up a petrol engine, I did a bit of research a few years ago, you really need ethanol or butanol for petrol cars (not sure you could get it cheaper) at 80% purity or higher. With an SU carb it would just be a case of adjusting the mixture, webber carbs need replacement parts.
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Re: Engine weights
1.5d engine from a saxo (late model) is indirect and has a bosch pump so is ok for veg. earlier ones without an immobiliser had a lucas pump and are no good.
if you can find a gearbox to mate it to i'd also suggest a 1.5td isuzu lump from a corsa b.
/veg oil geek (my other hobby ;) )
if you can find a gearbox to mate it to i'd also suggest a 1.5td isuzu lump from a corsa b.
/veg oil geek (my other hobby ;) )
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Re: Engine weights
The Prima is made by Perkins And yes a motego, very good Montegos had the turbo the best bit!PSL184 wrote:Perkins or Prima?
Probably Prima from a Montego or Maestro....
I've seen a corsa diesel engine in a morris, they used a opel manta gearbox, not an easy one to find now! Maybe an Carlton box would fit?
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Re: Engine weights
An Omega box would do the job (though not the diesel one ironically). Alternatively, as the Isuzu motor has the same bolt pattern as the Vauxhall/Opel XE motor ("Red Top"), you can use a Type 9 Box with an approriate aftermarket bellhousing.Robins wrote:The Prima is made by Perkins And yes a motego, very good Montegos had the turbo the best bit!PSL184 wrote:Perkins or Prima?
Probably Prima from a Montego or Maestro....
I've seen a corsa diesel engine in a morris, they used a opel manta gearbox, not an easy one to find now! Maybe an Carlton box would fit?
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Yes I thought so but wasn't 100% certain. I fitted a Montego lump to my Landrover a few years ago. The conversion kit only cost about £300 and I got the whole Montego estate for £50. The Landrover returned 40mpg and by the time I had sold the rest of the Montego on ebay I was about £200 in profitRobins wrote:The Prima is made by PerkinsPSL184 wrote:Perkins or Prima?
Probably Prima from a Montego or Maestro....
That would actually be a great conversion on a Minor (as I'm sure you know)
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Re: Engine weights
Would that be this one....twincamman wrote:An Omega box would do the job (though not the diesel one ironically). Alternatively, as the Isuzu motor has the same bolt pattern as the Vauxhall/Opel XE motor ("Red Top"), you can use a Type 9 Box with an approriate aftermarket bellhousing.
http://www.rwdmotorsport.com/Bellhousin ... od_10.html
Hmm, just need the measurements of the engine then
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Here's a pic of an Isuzu engine fitted, does anyone have any info on this car? great engine, easily tuned
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Re: Engine weights
Been researching into the Isuzu diesels as they look like the best choice, we'll probably go for the 1.5 turbo as it gives a good balance between power and fuel efficiency. The length and backplate are identical for the 1.5 and 1.7 so we can use one of the bell housings mentioned above
Just need to finish the current project so we can get started on this one
Just need to finish the current project so we can get started on this one
Philip, Lynda and the cars.