1953 (March) Series II Restoration

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Re: 1953 (March) Series II Restoration

Postby Ian46 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:16 am

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Further to the petrol tank repair photos posted yesterday, I've found photos which explains the process in more detail.

Photo 1 - My initial location holes were all opened up to the diameter of the nail heads being used.

Photo 2 - Welding near, or with galvanised coatings is very dangerous because of the toxic fumes given off so the galvanised coating was removed from the ends of the nails.

Photo 3 - Each hole location was countersunk and a 'valley' created for the weld material.

Photo 4 - Holes overfilled.

Photo 5 - Excess metal ground back to a point where I could finish off the cosmetics.

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Re: 1953 (March) Series II Restoration

Postby geoberni » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 am

I'm glad you cleared that up because yesterday you said...
He confirmed that he should be able to fix it using large headed nails pulled through the holes and soldered to the inner surface of the tank.
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Re: 1953 (March) Series II Restoration

Postby Nourish » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:34 pm

Would there be a problem if they were soldered?

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Re: 1953 (March) Series II Restoration

Postby geoberni » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:05 pm

Nourish wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:34 pm
Would there be a problem if they were soldered?
Not particularly, but it leave open the question of whether a naked flame was used for the heat, or a very large tip soldering iron. Body soldering is quite a technique.

See this video for an example of soldering holes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZFEqJ_s1gE
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Re: 1953 (March) Series II Restoration

Postby Ian46 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:21 pm

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Made a tentative re-start on the 'project' today by sanding back the protective paint on the body seams below the rear window and the two at the top of the rear wheel arches.

Interesting to note that whoever was operating the left hand side spot welder on the body shell production line wasn't quite as neat as the person on the right.

I have also removed the remaining lead from the roof molding where it comes down to the body.

The last photo shows an ugly weld hiding under the lead which is also repeated on the passenger side.

I haven't found any remnants of lead in the rain channels over the doors and side windows but there is definitely a gap which indicates to me that some sort of sealer is now missing after the dip'n'strip process. Can anyone please advise?

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Re: 1953 (March) Series II Restoration

Postby jaekl » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:47 am

I usually find a sealer perhaps Dum Dum where the outer roof and inner structure join to form the rain channels. I hope POMMreg sees the image of the LRMB. If they were all like that, I wonder why they bothered having it long.

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Re: 1953 (March) Series II Restoration

Postby ManyMinors » Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:22 pm

There was a sealant used along the gutters. I believe it was made by 3M and called "drip rail sealant" or something similar. We used to have it at work in little cans which screwed on to a device rather like an old fashioned oil can. You pulled a trigger to release a small line of sealant out and run along a seam. The sealant quickly dried and eventually can crack and come out. There must be a modern equivalent which will do the job. Probably quite important that this is done to prevent water leaks in the future.

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Re: 1953 (March) Series II Restoration

Postby jagnut66 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:18 pm

Tigerseal?
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Re: 1953 (March) Series II Restoration

Postby Ian46 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:41 am

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Thanks for getting back to me guys.

Jaekl - I remember the Eldro Dum Dum sealing compound from my youth!

Many Minors - 3M Drip Rail brushable sealant looks good and I think I will be using this to seam seal the interior of the car before painting.

Mike - I am familiar with Tiger Seal and have used it on the numerous kit cars I have built, mainly as a glue. I wasn't sure it can be painted over but it appears it can. Comes in a cartridge for easier application.
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Re: 1953 (March) Series II Restoration

Postby Ian46 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:58 pm

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Today was interesting. I decided to trial fit the bonnet. I was looking forward to it. However -

I have done this job before and always make sure the hinges are in good condition and make up temporary hinge gaskets to play around with on the day.

The rear of the bonnet was squarely located up against the bulkhead panel with a suitable gap of approx. 5mm, and the hinges bolted up but not fully tight. It is a split-screen so there a definite 'V' to locate the rear of the panel centrally. All fine up to now.

The grille panel was already bolted on to the car so I used that to make sure the bonnet was also centrally mounted at the front.

I then became aware that (looking from the front of the car), the leading edge of the bonnet looked a little odd.

First photo - The driver's side was ok up to a protruding 'bulge' along the front edge which I think I can massage back to straight again.

Second photo - However, moving along the front edge of the bonnet to the passenger side the front edge 'shrinks' back from the chrome trim showing that the bonnet is too short on this side.

Third photo - shows the final (best) location of the bonnet, which fits well everywhere but looks terrible at the front from above.

Has anyone else had this sort of problem?
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Re: 1953 (March) Series II Restoration

Postby Ian46 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:55 pm

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I have been expecting my lead loading kit order to arrive so I had removed the passenger rear side wing to get at the other end of the 'boot' seam to thoroughly clean the area where the new lead will be applied; however, as it hadn't come and to continue progress, I thought I would trial fit the rear wing beading and wing. Not a job I wanted to do later when the car is painted.

Before I could do that, I did spend some time panel beating the rear wing to satisfy myself that it could be saved and I am pleased with my first proper attempt. It's not perfect but near enough for a professional to finish up. (the wing is split at the bottom in a couple of places and I only have a spot welder at my disposal).

I cut the lovely gloss black beading to the length required and then painstakingly cut 'v's and bolt holes so it could temporarily taped and bolted it to the wheel arch. The wing bolts were then removed and the wing offered up to the beading. The bolts were added loosely and then tightened from the top of the wing outwards.

Still very much a trial and error process but I feel more confident about how the beading is going to end up.

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