Tool for remove and fix head

Discuss mechanical problems here.
Forum rules
By using this site, you agree to our rules. Please see: Terms of Use
Post Reply
Sandun
Minor Addict
Posts: 746
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:37 am
Location: Sri Lanka
MMOC Member: No

Tool for remove and fix head

Post by Sandun »

Hi

My friends please can you tell me what is the best tool for fix the bolt of the head (wrench torque )

Regards
Sandun

philthehill
Minor Maniac
Posts: 10815
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:05 pm
Location: Hampshire
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by philthehill »

Sandun
I use a Britool 1/2" drive torque wrench but any new torque wrench that has a certificate of conformity will be satisfactory.

Torque wrenches that click over when the correct torque is obtained I find are best.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/britool-torq ... 0008.m2219

Phil

Sandun
Minor Addict
Posts: 746
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:37 am
Location: Sri Lanka
MMOC Member: No

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by Sandun »

Thank you ,

What is the number that i want to select when fix nut ? , it is very helpful to me when i going to buy one .

philthehill
Minor Maniac
Posts: 10815
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:05 pm
Location: Hampshire
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by philthehill »

Sandun

1/2" drive and capable of 140lbf ft.

All torque figures can be found at the start of the mechanical section.

You will also need a 1/2" UNF and a 9/16" UNF I/2" drive sockets to tighten the head/rocker shaft with a torque wrench.

Phil

simmitc
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4734
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:43 am
Location: Essex
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by simmitc »

As well as going up to 140 lbft, make sure that it can go as low as 25 lbft - I have seen some that will read 0 - 60 or 50 - 180, and you will need to cover around 5 - 50, so as long as it will cover - 140 you'll be fine.
Dogsdad
Minor Friendly
Posts: 53
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:29 pm
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by Dogsdad »

Sandun, the torque setting for cylinder head nuts is 40 ft/lbs.
I feel this is what you were asking.
Regards R.M.
les
Minor Maniac
Posts: 8773
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2002 12:00 am
Location: kent
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by les »

———and only 25 ft lbs for the rocker shaft nuts?

Sandun
Minor Addict
Posts: 746
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:37 am
Location: Sri Lanka
MMOC Member: No

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by Sandun »

Hi

Thank you . sorry I cant found on online shops "lbft " tools with the numbers of you have given - so please help me to buy correct one

This type i can buy (i can see this types on shops )

1/2 (12.5 ) 5- 60 Nm

1/2 (12.5 ) 10 - 150 Nm

1/2 (12.5) 20 - 110 Nm

1/2 (12.5 ) 28 - 210 Nm

Is there correct one please ?

oliver90owner
Minor Legend
Posts: 1665
Joined: Thu May 12, 2016 6:33 am
MMOC Member: No

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by oliver90owner »

There are conversion tables, for imperial to metric, on the internet.

There is 0.305m in a foot and one Newton is equivalent to 100g, which is about 0.22 imperial pounds.
Trickydicky
Minor Legend
Posts: 1565
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:53 pm
Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire
MMOC Member: No

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by Trickydicky »

Sandun, 40 lb per foot is 54.232717933256 newton metres, 25 lb per foot is 33.895448708284995 using the online calculator here, https://www.convertunits.com/from/pound ... wton-meter
Richard

Opinions are like people,everyone can be different.
Declan_Burns
Minor Legend
Posts: 1956
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:32 am
Location: Düsseldorf, Germany
MMOC Member: No

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by Declan_Burns »

Sandun,
The one I use has dual scales which is very useful.
Here's one which would be suitable.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEALEY-AK624 ... :rk:3:pf:0
Regards
Declan


Regards
Declan
IslipMinor
Minor Legend
Posts: 2147
Joined: Mon May 10, 2004 9:10 pm
Location: Oxford, UK
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by IslipMinor »

Sandun,

1 lbf. ft. = 1.4 Nm, so the equivalent imperial torque ranges are:

1/2" (12.7mm ) 5- 60 Nm = 3.5 - 43 lbf. ft.

1/2" (12.7mm ) 10 - 150 Nm = 7 - 107 lbf. ft.

1/2" (12.7mm) 20 - 110 Nm = 14 - 79 lbf. ft.

1/2" (12.7mm ) 28 - 210 Nm = 20 - 150 lbf. ft.

I would get either the 10 - 150 Nm (7 -107 lbf. ft.), which does not cover the differential input flange, which is 140 lbf. ft., or the 28 - 210 Nm (20 - 150 lbf. ft.), which does.
Last edited by IslipMinor on Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:25 am, edited 2 times in total.
Richard


philthehill
Minor Maniac
Posts: 10815
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:05 pm
Location: Hampshire
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by philthehill »

The three torque wrenches I have (including my first purchase - Britool) are all marked in lbf ft and Newton Metres so there should be no difficulty in cross reading the settings.

simmitc
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4734
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:43 am
Location: Essex
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by simmitc »

For what you are doing at the moment I would go for the 1/2" (12.7mm ) 10 - 150 Nm = 7 - 107 lbf. ft. and not worry about the diff flange that hopefully will not need attention. When replacing the head, you need to keep all nuts tightened evenly, so for example, all to 10 lbft in the correct sequence, then all to 15, 20, 25 etc. There will be discussions as to what steps to use, may be 10, 20, 30, 40; but the more even that you can keep the figures, the less chance of distorting the head; so this wrench will provide more scope, particularly on the rocker studs that go only to 25 any way.

My wrenches have dual scales too, but some of the newer ones don't, so it#s worth double checking.
oliver90owner
Minor Legend
Posts: 1665
Joined: Thu May 12, 2016 6:33 am
MMOC Member: No

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by oliver90owner »

philthehill wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:53 am The three torque wrenches I have (including my first purchase - Britool) are all marked in lbf ft and Newton Metres so there should be no difficulty in cross reading the settings.
Only three, Phil? I still have five. Four are Britool, the other a Sykes Pickavant. The SP gets used most as it is more easily adjusted, but over the years they have all been used according to range. Smallest Britool was for Honda motorcycle engines (one scale in pounds inches and the other in pounds feet) and the largest for wheel nuts on my lorry/agricultural equipment. The SP drops right in the middle for most cylinder head bolts and wheel nuts (30-300Nm) I usually come across. I haven’t used the big one in ten years.

RAB
philthehill
Minor Maniac
Posts: 10815
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:05 pm
Location: Hampshire
MMOC Member: Yes

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by philthehill »

The three were purchased for specific jobs.

The Britool 1/2" drive for BMC engines and general use, the second 1/2" drive is capable of up to 150lbf ft and slightly more was purchased for torqueing the starter dog on the Ser 3 Landrover and the 3/8" drive is for torqueing smaller items including my Honda XL185S M/C.

Never had a need to purchase more torque wrenches - but then again I never need an excuse to purchase additional tools - if needed it is purchased.

A most important tip as regards torque wrenches not in use is to remove all tension off the spring as it will then keep its accuracy for much longer.

My torque wrenches are treated kindly, not dropped or abused and so they last a long time.

Phil

oliver90owner
Minor Legend
Posts: 1665
Joined: Thu May 12, 2016 6:33 am
MMOC Member: No

Re: Tool for remove and fix head

Post by oliver90owner »

Britool (the older ones) will certainly last a lifetime. Not so sure of the newer ones, now they have been taken over. My first was bought for Honda engines in the ‘60s, the next size up was bought for car engines in the late ‘60s. The next Britool was a second hand snip, while I was working on agri tackle, as was the big one.

The SP arrived by a different route and has proved the easiest to use for the few jobs I do now. They are all close to original spec. I always turn to my Britool socket set if there is a tough job...

RAB
Post Reply