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Steering Rack

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:07 pm
by alawrence10360
https://www.morrisminor.org.uk/parts/32-steering-rack

Looking at this link from Charles Ware there is a steering rack STR 101R
and another STR101E 57 onwards
I spoke to a guy there who said the for a later model the first one is for the later models (I have a 67 ) however that doesnt make sence to me given the description
Has anybody used one ?

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:50 pm
by les

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:06 am
by alawrence10360
I would normally go for ESM as you suggest however the surcharge is £20 more than Charles Ware
All being well I will get it back I know but still...

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:05 am
by les
Fair enough, I mentioned it because you generally get the right thing from them. In my book that comes first.
Maybe check with CW again and tell them there is a doubt, and to verify.

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:53 pm
by geoberni
Well quite simply I'd firmly ask them to explain, since what they are telling you is contrary to the website descriptions.
Wouldn't be the first time a website has had an incorrect description applied.

In fact, I'd ask them by email so that you have the response in writing, which you can challenge them mover if it's wrong later. :wink:

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:51 am
by alawrence10360
Got a call from CharlesWare this morning confirming the website info was incorrect. Should say up to 1957 not from..
Unfortunately I've already ordered one frim ESM as recommended
#snoozeyoulooseCH

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:53 pm
by alawrence10360
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Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:11 pm
by alawrence10360
Just got around to fitting the recon rack from ESM and when checking the operation through its full travel from the wheels whilst on the stands I felt that it wasnt as smooth as the one I had taken off
Realised I had not filled it with oil !
Pleade tell me its possible to fill it whilst in situ as it was a nightmare fitting it back on my own

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:27 pm
by les
A nipple is accessible through a hole in the floor at rack level, on the nearside. Assuming there is no oil already in the rack, I think it is 10 strokes of the gun ( check that though) Some people use grease but I’m not sure if that is right, I’d use oil. Anyhow no need to remove rack.

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:30 pm
by alawrence10360
ive read ep 90 on here

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:54 pm
by Edward1949
alawrence10360 wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:11 pm
it was a nightmare fitting it back on my own
:( I'm contemplating this job. Any tips ?

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:59 pm
by alawrence10360
use a ball joint splitter.
a recon rack is so cheap its a no brainer.
check if its lubricated BEFORE you refit.
get a mate to be in the car to get the four off fixing bolts off.
otherwise it appears to be the easiest job i have done. its not finished yet however...

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:01 pm
by alawrence10360
if ep90 is the correct lubricant do you use a grease gun to get it in ?

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:15 pm
by les
Yes, as it needs to attach to the nipple.

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:59 pm
by myoldjalopy
I use one of these to oil the rack via the steering nipple: https://www.frost.co.uk/hp-push-type-oil-gun/
It does the job but leaks a bit while in storage so I keep it in a polythene bag.

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:41 pm
by alawrence10360
there out of stock unfortunately
do you think it would work in a normal grease gun ?

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:41 pm
by paul 300358
I also use the oil gun same as Myoldjalopy's. I think that the manual states 10 pumps when servicing. After replacing a gator, I gave it 10 pumps then left it for a bit then kept repeating until I got a small drip from a rubber gator.

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:07 pm
by alawrence10360
do you need to remove the normal type grease nipple to use one of these guns ?
i can see them on ebay but they just serm to have an open nozzel

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:17 pm
by myoldjalopy
"do you need to remove the normal type grease nipple to use one of these guns ?" No, the gun fits straight over the nipple. Pity it is out of stock but there must be others on the market - you'd think so, anyway. I think you could use a grease gun to pump the oil but clean all the grease out first.........urggh, a messy job, no doubt.........however, given that some folks grease the steering rack anyway, a bit of grease mixed with the oil can't do any harm.

Re: Steering Rack

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:16 pm
by Myrtles Man
I used to maintain the trunnions on my Lotus Elan with EP90 applied from a Wanner grease gun. It worked well with no issues arising.