Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

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Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby PeteS » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:39 pm

Hi, i have gone through posts that suggest mintex shoes are the way to go for drum brakes. The website only has rear shoes and they seem to be 7 inch ones for sale. Can anyone point me to a site where i can get good front and rear shoes for 8 inch drums? Also, apparently soft coating or kevlar shoes demonstrate better performance but i cant seem to find these for the Minor. ANY thoughts reslly gratefully received. Pete

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Re: Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby philthehill » Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:16 pm

A point to consider is that the rear brakes on a Minor are 7" dia for the 803cc, 948cc and 1098cc. They are not 8" dia.

Only the 1500cc version of the Minor i.e. Wolseley 1500 had the 8" dia rear brakes.

The front brakes of a 803cc/948cc Minor are 7" dia. The front brakes of a 1098cc Minor are 8".

Genuine Mintex brake shoes are perfectly useable for a Minor 1000 but take care in choosing the genuine item.


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Re: Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby PeteS » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:20 pm

Thank you so much for the response, Phil. That all makes sense as I was surprised that Mintex would only have 7" rears for sale if the 8" shoes were fitted to later versions. Mintex don't seem to have the front 8" shoes for sale, only the 7" rears. I may go for re-lining unless people think that is a bad idea? Pete

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Re: Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby philthehill » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:33 pm

Again choose your relining material and who does the job carefully.

Relining brake shoes is a safety critical task and must be done by someone who is experienced in the task and has the necessary equipment.


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Re: Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby alanworland » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:47 pm

I have 8 inch drums on the front and both front and rear shoes were lined by myself by riveting the linings onto the shoes.
I believe it was once quite common to buy linings to be applied in this manner - a pile of linings and a packet of copper rivet's!
Not looked but I don't suppose there available now?

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Re: Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby Shropshiremoggie » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:04 pm

That brought memories , I used to rivet new linings onto the shoes when I had my Austin Ruby many years ago.

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Re: Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby DAVIDMCCULLOUGH » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:31 pm

Heres a link to the 8' Mintex shoe on East Sussex. Definitely gives a great improvemnet over the standard shoe with very hard linings.

https://www.morrisminorspares.com/brake ... ex-p829465


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Re: Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby philthehill » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:09 pm

It was a frequent task undertaken by me to rivet new brake linings to brake shoes when working in the BMC garage and well before moulded shoes became commonly available.
Many of the linings had to be cut and drilled to suit the shoe. Mostly the brake material was supplied in roll of suitable width and depth and the length was cut to suit..
No worries about asbestos back then.
The rivets are special and I have some copper ones in a drawer. They were copper because if the rivet head hit the drum the theory was that as the copper is softer than the cast iron the copper rivets would not wear the drum but it did not always work like that.
Looks like they are still available but the size must be checked for suitability.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FLAT-HEAD-Co ... Sw3s1aAdmv

Some brake shoes for riveting are available on 'e' bay.


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Re: Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby PeteS » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:56 pm

Wow. Doing my own lining? First drive would probably see me mowing people down on a zebra crossing. I am not talented or brave enough. Will get them done professionally I think! Thanks all for your comments and suggestions. Pete

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Re: Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby Edward1949 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:00 am

http://brakereline.co.uk/

I was thinking (and still am) of fitting softer front linings. I had a quote last year from this company to reline my shoes with a soft woven material which guarantees stronger braking - presumably with the penalty of faster wear. The cost was £9.50 per shoe plus VAT plus postage - they don't do exchange, you have to send your old shoes for relining.

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Re: Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby PeteS » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:02 am

Thanks Edward. Will look into this link. Pete

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Re: Improving drum brake performance on a 71 traveller

Postby PeteS » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:02 am

Thanks Edward. Will look into this link. Pete


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