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Early Steering Column Bush

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Hi All,
Hope you all had a great Christmas.
So, took Basil for a brief drive just after dark to check the new LED Headlights (that I'll post about later) only a quick 5 minutes around the block so to speak, the Steering was quite stiff when manoeuvring off the drive, but seemed to get easier.... when I got home, I realised the bush had popped out.
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As the Manual doesn't seem to say anything that I can find, has anyone get recommendations for how to get it back in?

Anyone got a recommended lubrication method as I can find nothing in Section P/PP.

I assume it has popped out because it wasn't lubricated and turning the steering wheel dragged it out on place....
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Re: Early Steering Column Bush

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Looks like it is worn out, to me. Time to turn up a new one, or buy one in?
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oliver90owner wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:25 am Looks like it is worn out, to me. Time to turn up a new one, or buy one in?
It's rubber (ish), soft & pliable. https://www.morrisminor.org.uk/parts/31 ... bush-early

In the absence of any other suggestions over the holiday period, I've pushed it back in place with a small coating of light oil on the metal faces of the column and the bracket, pulling the column across in one direction while pushing the bush in on the opposite side, top, bottom, left & right until it was all the way down.
With a bit of luck the oil will soak in, cause no damage to whatever it's made of, and stop it squeaking. :wink:
It's an original MOWOG part :o
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Thanks for the link to the part geoberni, that is useful to note in itself.
I have the same set up as you, so it's good to know they are still available.
I can't imagine the oil will hurt the rubber but it might run out and make a mess elsewhere (will it interfere with the horn contact on the steering column behind the bracket?).
I might use some red grease I have, if mine ever pops out.
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Clear waxoyl on the bush might be another idea?
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Candle wax heated up and poured in? Might stay in longer?
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jagnut66 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:37 pm Thanks for the link to the part geoberni, that is useful to note in itself.
I have the same set up as you, so it's good to know they are still available.
Having looked again at the manual (Sect J) for a while I was beginning to have doubts.... :-?

J2 is a terrible expanded view drawing, since it makes the slip ring appear in front of the mounting bracket, rather than behind it.
part 43 is described as a 'Bush, while 42 is a 'Sleeve - Rubber'.
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A more accurate and useful exploded view is something like this......
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Here's the parts assembled with the relevant numbers.....
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it's very likely that the brass bush is applied hot and an interference fit. The part sold as a Bush, is clearly the Sleeve - Rubber. On the ESM site it is listed as being "Steering Column Rubber Bush MM"


I used a little 3in1 type oil, just enough to lubricate the metal surfaces, inner and outer.
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J2 is a terrible expanded view drawing, since it makes the slip ring appear in front of the mounting bracket, rather than behind it.
I see what you mean, the top one of your two diagrams seems particularly out of sequence.
We can only assume it made sense to the technical experts at Morris / BMC that compiled it.

On the plus side their wiring diagram for my car made light work of my (dreaded) rewire, so I'm not going to complain, too much........ :wink:

Especially as the Morris Motors complaints hotline seems to be disconnected for some reason??........
Best wishes,
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1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
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