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ignition coil gets hot
Hi,
I am having a great difficulty starting my 1969 Morris Minor 1000. When it does start it runs very rough and the coil is getting very hot. I am thinking of changing the shark plugs. What type of NGK plugs should I use? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Andrew
I am having a great difficulty starting my 1969 Morris Minor 1000. When it does start it runs very rough and the coil is getting very hot. I am thinking of changing the shark plugs. What type of NGK plugs should I use? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Andrew
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RE: ignition coil gets hot
I'd be thinking of changing the coil myself
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RE: ignition coil gets hot
Something fishy here ! Coil will get hot if the engine is left with the ignition ON and the points closed - it's passing current !! Check the points gap, and when did it last have a new condenser ? Clean all the other ignition components - rotor arm/dizzy cap/HT leads - in fact these all cost so little it really is better to just renew them all every few years. Just use N9Y champions if it's a standard engine, or go to N7Y or even N6Y if highly modified.if
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Re: RE: ignition coil gets hot
Does that refer to the "shark plugs"? - Sorry.bmcecosse wrote:Something fishy here ! f
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RE: Re: RE: ignition coil gets hot
NGK BP6E or BP6ES
But I'd clean everything up, check all connections and think about a new coil first.
But I'd clean everything up, check all connections and think about a new coil first.
RE: Re: RE: ignition coil gets hot
Coils very rarely fail - and if the do - they don't get hot ! The fact it is hot tells me it is passing current ok. Get a new one if you want (along with all the other new ignition gubbins) - but i doubt it is the reason the car is not starting at the moment.
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RE: Re: RE: ignition coil gets hot
The coil can go partial short inside (insulation breaks and coil turns come into contact with each other). It's not common but has happened before. This causes excessive current drain and poor output. Perhaps getting a spare coil is a good idea anyway and you can try swapping it over and trying the new one.
RE: Re: RE: ignition coil gets hot
Once happened to me Cam - when the casing cracked and leaked all the oil out - on an 'all night' rally too. Fortunately I had a spare in the car !
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RE: Re: RE: ignition coil gets hot
oil in coil? Or coily bits falling out instead of oily bits
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RE: Re: RE: ignition coil gets hot
Err, I've had three coils on my car, all from various mm suppliers, all of whom have agreed that modern coils seem to fail with shocking regularity.
On all occasions they've got very hot... same as the ones on the zed, but they fail from being shaken to pieces.
On all occasions they've got very hot... same as the ones on the zed, but they fail from being shaken to pieces.
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1969 Morris 'thou, 4 Door. 2010 Mitsubishi iMiEV. 1920s BSA Pushbike. 1930s Raleigh pushbike.
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Desires:
Trabant 601, Tatra T603, Series II Landy, Moskvitch-401, Vincent HRD Black Shadow, Huge garage, Job in Washington State.
well i've had between 4 and five coils in the last year. all modern ones except for the current one. they all overheated and when i took one of them apart i saw that one of the wires going to the spade terminal was burnt through. these were all budget modern coils from halfords or other such places. an old-style oil-filled one (filled completely) from commercial ignition seems to be alright, but then i haven't had it that long and it still gets pretty hot. also make sure the two wires are not swapped around as the car will still run but not as efficiently. however i am not certain this will cause it to burn out. anyway i hate coils and wish they weren't needed!
good luck
good luck
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I don't think so; they are coils from minor specialists (at least the ones on my car were) - not ones from random-car-parts-suppliers.
Pyoor Kate
The Electric Minor Project
The Current Fleet:
1969 Morris 'thou, 4 Door. 2010 Mitsubishi iMiEV. 1920s BSA Pushbike. 1930s Raleigh pushbike.
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1974 & 1975 Daf 44s, 1975 Enfield 8000 EV, 1989 Yugo 45, 1981 Golf Mk1, 1971 Vauxhall Viva, 1989 MZ ETZ 125, 1989 Volvo Vario 340, 1990, 1996 & 1997 MZ/Kanuni ETZ 251s
Desires:
Trabant 601, Tatra T603, Series II Landy, Moskvitch-401, Vincent HRD Black Shadow, Huge garage, Job in Washington State.
The Electric Minor Project
The Current Fleet:
1969 Morris 'thou, 4 Door. 2010 Mitsubishi iMiEV. 1920s BSA Pushbike. 1930s Raleigh pushbike.
The Ex-Fleet:
1974 & 1975 Daf 44s, 1975 Enfield 8000 EV, 1989 Yugo 45, 1981 Golf Mk1, 1971 Vauxhall Viva, 1989 MZ ETZ 125, 1989 Volvo Vario 340, 1990, 1996 & 1997 MZ/Kanuni ETZ 251s
Desires:
Trabant 601, Tatra T603, Series II Landy, Moskvitch-401, Vincent HRD Black Shadow, Huge garage, Job in Washington State.
I just use an old standard Lucas coil - but I have it mounted low down on the inner wing, not on the engine. So it gets lots of cool air - and no heat transfer from the engine. Can't say I have noticed it anything more than slightly warm - but the car should NOT be left with the ignition on, and the engine not running.