Gloveboxes

olonas · Post by **olonas** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 8:20 pm

If anybody has a 1957 vintage saloon/Traveller or has experience of a similar age vehicle, the models with the driver's side glove box lid that will not open fully because the steering wheel is in the way, I need to know if the the lining is secured at the top of the aperture as well as using the hinge screws. This also applies to the other, passenger's, side.
I was told by a Minor Specialist that the boxes were secured by the hinge screws and further screws at the top. There are no holes in the flange at the top of the aperture where securing screws may have been at some time. Are these linings only secured using the bottom screws through the hinges?
My '62 saloon, no glove box lids, has the linings secured by six screws (3 top, 3 bottom)
I wonder which bright spark at BMC had the idea of the driver's lid anyway!

Post by **Willie** » Wed Jul 24, 2002 10:04 pm

Lo, my 1957 convertible is secured only by the hinge screws. there are
no holes in the top flange for screws.
Willie

olonas · Post by **olonas** » Thu Jul 25, 2002 8:35 am

Thanks for the information, Willie, no need to get the drill out! The linings just seemed to be a bit "floppy" at the top, probably their age.
One further question, if you can help. Am I correct in assuming, that once the screws in the hinges have been released, the linings flex sufficiently to enable removal through the aperture (towards the rear of the car). The edges of the linings are behind the flange. I can't imagine that they are removed the other way.

Post by **Gareth** » Thu Jul 25, 2002 2:29 pm

Hi!

My gloveboxes are held in with the screws at the bottom of the hinges. Also, there is a catch riveted to the top of the aperture. I don't know if that should be riveted through the inner - mine isn't.

As for the removal - take out the screws and push the inner towards the front of the car.

Then, try and squeeze the two parts together (there's a split at the top) and turn it around inside the dashboard, so that it comes out sideways. Much easier, although having small fingers helps!!

For the driver's side, it is possible to remove the box without taking the steering wheel off - it's a fiddle - small fingers again?! You'll need to get the wheel off to put it back on though - it's far too difficult otherwise!

Good Luck!

olonas · Post by **olonas** » Thu Jul 25, 2002 6:57 pm

Thanks for reply, Gareth.
Yes there is a spring catch riveted to the top flange, for the hinged lid. I doubt if that was ever used to secure the lining, would have been a pig to remove then. Also there's a front to back split on top of the lining.
I guessed that was how they were extracted except for the turning around bit.
My '62 saloon is much easier, as mentioned in original posting, no lids and six screws through lining into flange.

Post by **newagetraveller** » Thu Jul 25, 2002 7:34 pm

I used to have a 1957 traveller and I thought there was a little bracket bolted to the underside of the glove compartment which rested on the bodywork behind the dashboard. This meant that the glove compartment could not be pushed down even though there were no screws securing it at the top.
It was a long time ago however and I may be imagining this.

olonas · Post by **olonas** » Thu Jul 25, 2002 11:39 pm

The car in question is also a '57 Traveller. The driver's side glovebox "gives" too much for there to be some form of support underneath. In fact it drops over time sufficiently for the top of the liner to displace from behind the aperture flange. The other box doesn't sag as much though, maybe there is a support in place. However this doesn't mean to say there never was any form of, as built, support at some time in the past. Seems logical not to have the total weight supported only by the screws in the hinges, especially if there is something stowed in the glovebox (other than gloves!). Until I get around to removing the box I have temporarily pushed some foam rubber strip (saloon boot seal to be precise) between the bottom of the liner and the horizontal plate behind the facia. This is helping and the liner is no longer dropping. Sometime in the past someone has tried to stop the problem by using masking tape to stick the liner to the aperture.

Post by **fweddy** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 10:05 pm

Newagetraveller is right, In my 73 ute there is a z shape bracket under the glovebox liner which supports it. They are toward the centre of the vehicle beside the large round aperture underneath the dash. If you reach up under there you should feel it. Its about 2cm wide and the same hight from memory. I don't recall if it is secured to the liner or just supporting it, just take note so that you are not trying to pull the thing out with it still attached. looking in the floor of the liner should show a screw head or somehing if it is attached.