Noise Reduction

Post by **Blunt** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:52 am

I would have thought that wearing headphones whilst driving was illegal...

I'd be surprised if it's not

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:29 am

Blunt wrote: I would have thought that wearing headphones whilst driving was illegal... I'd be surprised if it's not

and if it's not then it jolly well should be

Post by **Cam** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:56 am

Never liked the idea myself due to the sensory depravation... I have known a few people years ago that used to do it when they had a knackered car that did not have a stereo installed...

Post by **ColinP** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:21 pm

If you want the Hi-tech solution to headphones in the car (without the wires), then it's bluetooth!

i.e. wireless connection between the headphaones and the radio.

It's a lot cheaper to have the sound insulation...

Colin

Post by **MikeNash** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:19 pm

Do any seats have speakers up at ear level? (Or have I hit on an original idea? Surely not!) If so, which cars? Scappy, here we come! MikeN.

Post by **Stig** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:58 pm

Didn't Lotus experiment with noise cancelling using speakers mounted in the head rest once?

Post by **bigginger** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:27 pm

My black pick up has speakers at ear level too... I expect Lotus' were a bit more high tech, mind you...

Post by **andrewsxt** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:44 pm

I tend to leave the wife at home for optimum noise reduction.

Post by **MikeNash** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:52 am

Jonathon - Thanks for the "Noise Killer" tip. Stuffed it into Google and its all there.

Mark - This looks like the best source. Will contact them next week and let you know their response. MikeN.

Post by dp » Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:15 am

I've used old carpet tiles of the sort that seem to be tufts bonded into a sheet of bitumen. They were left at my new flat. Seem to do a good job behind the armrests and under the rear seats. Haven't done the front yet.

Actually, in the past I've put down a sheet of plastic (split bin bags) on the floor before the sound-deadening and carpet in case anything holds water against the floor. Is this a good thing or would condensation capillary under the plastic and be trapped there? Never noticed this but it wasn't like tis for long.

Post by **millerman** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:01 am

Mike

If you contact Noisekiller perhaps you could post where each type of material should go on a Minor and also costs, there were none on the website.
If you are the contact it will save the Company having to answer similar questions from other posters and you never know you may be able to negotiate some discount if enough people were interested in buying the product!

Cheers

Post by **Willie** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:04 pm

DP....The plastic layer would prevent any moisture from ever
evaporating so would probably increase the risk of rust forming.

Post by dp » Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:41 pm

Cheers Willie

Post by **markward** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:08 pm

Sorry I haven't replied to all the comments over the last week, it's been pretty manic here as I've had the AGM to organise for another club I'm involved in.

Willie wrote:MARKW...looking at your pic it suggests that you may still be
running on cross ply tyres?? If so then a change to radials will
remove an unbelievable amount of road noise.

I haven't investigated the tyres but it could be an easy route to cutting down the noise and well worth trying.
'Noise Killer' sounds a good idea if they can come up with a kit for the minor.
Thanks to everybody,
Mark

Post by **MikeNash** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:25 pm

Not done the work I hoped, but had a poke about on Google for a couple of hours and found in tyresmoke.net and maxpower.co.uk (how do you get the link direct?) that some think that adhesive flashing (no, not that but water proofing on roofs) and the adhesive underlayering for roofing is as good.
The best of proper sound deadening is v expensive, eg four sheets of Dynamat Extreme each 1ftx3ft is £70 (shopping.yahoo.uk) but Flashbond Evostik 10mx100mm is £17.61 (Travis&Perkins in Andover) and Marley RapidSeal Underlayer 8mx1m is £27.98 (B&Q Farnboro' Hants).
Anyone used this stuff?
The Marley stuff looks attractive, esp for large areas in vans like Wibble Puppy's. (If you put in Wibble Puppy into Google you get ninety, yes 90, pages! We live among giants!)
But I digress. I suspect that in modern quiet cars you need v good stuff to make a difference but for earlier rattlers more elementary stuff will be a good start. Any opinions?
I'll keep searching and reporting, but for myself I'll cure some the sources first ie install the quarterlight rubbers and the new steering rack I've had for 6 months. I'll do some more careful sound measurements before and after too. Regards, MikeN.

Post by **jonathon** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:31 pm

If there are enough of you interested in the Noise killer products I could negotiate a deal for maybe a tailored package, using the best suitable products in specific areas. I already have an account with this company and benefit from a trade discount. If enough interest was forthcoming then maybe this could be a possible route.

Post by **MikeNash** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:41 pm

Thanks , Johnathon.
Well, I'm interested, of course. But the cost could be a killer. £100 -£150 might be a goer but I'm also worried about fitting. I suspect that what we'll need is a clean fire wall to fit it, and mine like most is a going car with masses of wires etc and difficult access.
But I don't want to be negative, and am seriously interested in what experts like Noise Killer and yourself would recommend. MikeN.

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:00 am

we could roll up some fifty pound notes and stuff 'em in our ears

Post by **Peetee** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:16 am

we could roll up some fifty pound notes and stuff 'em in our ears

ROFLMAO

Post by **Willie** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:59 pm

WIBBLE PUPPY.................brilliant!