Hi has anybody tried this http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2 ... 6900069_Ac
I have never heard of this but talking to others on an other forum and they say it works some have been using it for quite some time
ACETONE
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Mixed opinion on this.
A LOT of people will tell you it works, theres a guy in the US who does nothing else than run tests on various engines with it added.
First found out about it 2 or 3 years ago and tried it on a couple of old motors, oddly they both broke down not too long afterwards, could have been quite unrelated truly cant say.
Was looking at it a couple of weeks ago
http://www.mmoc.org.uk/index.php?name=P ... ic&t=18323
Our good Mr Rust found a link that suggests the mog fuel pump diaphragm is resistant to acetone.
Will i be tryng it in the mog - NO CHANCE ! old range rover yes as soon as it needs some more fuel.
I'll see if i can find the link for the guy in the US, didnt bookmark it unfortunately - he also sells metres to tell you MPG which is what people say is the reason behind it.
Have also heard it said that when people have added the tiny quantity required they are also more likely to drive more carefully which can give inconclusive results.
Guess the only way would be to try it on a thirsty lump without then with whilst its sat on a dyno at a constant ambient temperature - that would really be worth doing and seeing the results of.
Course youd also have to make sure that your starting fuel had none in as rumours are rife that some brands actually do add it at the refinery.
A LOT of people will tell you it works, theres a guy in the US who does nothing else than run tests on various engines with it added.
First found out about it 2 or 3 years ago and tried it on a couple of old motors, oddly they both broke down not too long afterwards, could have been quite unrelated truly cant say.
Was looking at it a couple of weeks ago
http://www.mmoc.org.uk/index.php?name=P ... ic&t=18323
Our good Mr Rust found a link that suggests the mog fuel pump diaphragm is resistant to acetone.
Will i be tryng it in the mog - NO CHANCE ! old range rover yes as soon as it needs some more fuel.
I'll see if i can find the link for the guy in the US, didnt bookmark it unfortunately - he also sells metres to tell you MPG which is what people say is the reason behind it.
Have also heard it said that when people have added the tiny quantity required they are also more likely to drive more carefully which can give inconclusive results.
Guess the only way would be to try it on a thirsty lump without then with whilst its sat on a dyno at a constant ambient temperature - that would really be worth doing and seeing the results of.
Course youd also have to make sure that your starting fuel had none in as rumours are rife that some brands actually do add it at the refinery.
Heres one of the better links - draw your own conclusions if you will, also worth a google for acetone petrol addative, interesting reading.
http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm
http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm
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alex_holden
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What nonsense. To paraphrase: "I've found a way to make the internal combustion engine twice as efficient but there's a massive conspiracy between the oil companies and car manufacturers to keep it a secret." 
This sounds like a job for Mythbusters.
This sounds like a job for Mythbusters.
Alex Holden - http://www.alexholden.net/
If it doesn't work, you're not hitting it with a big enough hammer.
It does that Alex - but ther could be something in it
heres a very long thread from people in India - many of whom have tried many of whom see instant results, and there are numerous such threads all over the web.
Till the day i can test it for sure will keep an open mind.
Maybe a good way initial would be to put a litre only in my 4 stroke petrol genny time it till it runs out without then try it with a litre + 25ml acetone. Be interesting to see if the run time is signifigantly different, maybe not the best of tests but all i can think of on the cheap
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/technical ... etrol.html
heres a very long thread from people in India - many of whom have tried many of whom see instant results, and there are numerous such threads all over the web.
Till the day i can test it for sure will keep an open mind.
Maybe a good way initial would be to put a litre only in my 4 stroke petrol genny time it till it runs out without then try it with a litre + 25ml acetone. Be interesting to see if the run time is signifigantly different, maybe not the best of tests but all i can think of on the cheap
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/technical ... etrol.html
Heres another link which is a pretty comprehensive set of links (you'll need days to go through it all)
Interestingly there are some instances of it actually increasing consumption
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory: ... l_Additive
Interestingly there are some instances of it actually increasing consumption
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory: ... l_Additive
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paulhumphries
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OT but what about tbis -
http://www.ecotekplc.com/cb-26p.htm
I reckon "mechanical snake oil".
If you look at all the "data" on the web site you will see it relates to years ago and nothing upto date.
With our Chrysler I'm getting about 3+mpg extra simply by using Super Unleaded - this is over just under 1000 miles and serval tank fulls. I think not because it's anything special but rather that petrol companies have degraded normal unleaded. With that in mind Acetone MIGHT make a difference to some older engines
Paul Humphries
http://www.ecotekplc.com/cb-26p.htm
I reckon "mechanical snake oil".
If you look at all the "data" on the web site you will see it relates to years ago and nothing upto date.
With our Chrysler I'm getting about 3+mpg extra simply by using Super Unleaded - this is over just under 1000 miles and serval tank fulls. I think not because it's anything special but rather that petrol companies have degraded normal unleaded. With that in mind Acetone MIGHT make a difference to some older engines
Paul Humphries
Just a point for those considering acetone as an additive.
It does have other uses which may cause you some grief:-
It is used in the production of some illegal substances.
It has been used in the production of "home-made" explosives.
It is used with GRP fabrications.
If you start to order quantities of this solvent, you may find that there are other people interested in your use of it.....
As a comment, I note that one of the links form a link suggest that you can produce enough hydrogen & oxygen from water to power your car.
(basically, you electrolyse the water using the 12 v power supply, burn it in the engine to produce water, and it gives you back enough power to travel and run the electolysis process.)
Can anyone else spot the difficulty with this proposal? (hint - it couldn' be patented).
Colin
It does have other uses which may cause you some grief:-
It is used in the production of some illegal substances.
It has been used in the production of "home-made" explosives.
It is used with GRP fabrications.
If you start to order quantities of this solvent, you may find that there are other people interested in your use of it.....
As a comment, I note that one of the links form a link suggest that you can produce enough hydrogen & oxygen from water to power your car.
(basically, you electrolyse the water using the 12 v power supply, burn it in the engine to produce water, and it gives you back enough power to travel and run the electolysis process.)
Can anyone else spot the difficulty with this proposal? (hint - it couldn' be patented).
Colin
Yes thats called a fuel cell.
or you can use wind power to produce hydrogen which you then burn, flippin volatile stuff though.
The difficulty of either is that they aren't simple home doables. Youd be far better expending your time growing some rape seed, harvesting and crushing the oil out and using that to run a diesel engine.
Great byproduct is a cake which is a fantastic animal food.
Think from memory that a hectare will give you about 250 litres of pure oil (like you cook chips in) - the commercial grade machine to crush & extract the oil and leave the cake is about £7k for the 7kw mains jobby , or £10k with its own generator that runs off the oil it produces.
or you can use wind power to produce hydrogen which you then burn, flippin volatile stuff though.
The difficulty of either is that they aren't simple home doables. Youd be far better expending your time growing some rape seed, harvesting and crushing the oil out and using that to run a diesel engine.
Great byproduct is a cake which is a fantastic animal food.
Think from memory that a hectare will give you about 250 litres of pure oil (like you cook chips in) - the commercial grade machine to crush & extract the oil and leave the cake is about £7k for the 7kw mains jobby , or £10k with its own generator that runs off the oil it produces.
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