Carry a baby safely in the back of a morris 1000

Post by **dlangridge** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:39 pm

Does anyone know the best/safest way to carry a baby in the back of a Morris 1000. Currently I have no seatbelts in the back and I will do anything to get the best solution to this problem because otherwise I will be forced to sell my lovely 1964 Morris 1000.
Any suggestions?

Darren

Post by **chickenjohn** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:03 pm

Fit seatbelts! Then a child seat.

Welcome to the forum, I'm sure there are some folk on here who have done this. I know a chap in the East Kent club who has carried his toddler in a baby seat in their Minor 1000.

Post by **chickenjohn** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:03 pm

BTW, you have four identical messages posted.

Post by **bigginger** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:17 pm

Not any more ;)
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Post by **dunketh** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:59 pm

You need inertia belts fitted. Get a specialist to do it if you're at all unsure.
Baby seats simply fit to the seatbelts then.
The one I use for my nephew just has a large frame at the back that the seatbelt passes through.

Post by **shellgrotto** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:37 pm

Hello

Sorry to drag this up again, have looked through all the topics relating to rear inertia seats and transporting a baby...still some questions though.

I am on the verge of buying a Minor, but with a 15 month old in tow (trying hard not to follow advice and "finally buy a sensible car"!). I read one comment on a previous thread that an inertia reel/baby seat combo wouldn't be effective because of the fixings of the rear seat...how so?

It's bad enough considering cutting through the back seat (sacrilege surely, perhaps us baby seaters should be barred from chopping up classics and made to travel in Vauxhall Vectras for all eternity...). But if chopping up the back seat and getting my mechanic to fit the darn thing still won't give me peace of mind...well, the Vectra's half the price...gulp.

Thanks folks.

Sarah

Post by **alex_holden** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:53 pm

Why do you need to cut through the seat? I would have thought an ordinary three point inertia reel would attach to the child seat and work the same as it does in any other car.

Post by **shellgrotto** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:04 pm

OK...Thinks...Of course, 'buckle' bit to slide up between seat and back then? That would mean buying a different baby seat (had a helluva job finding one to fit the last car, buckle bit apparently located very far forward) but yes that would be much preferable. Thanks, couldn't see the wood for the trees there.

Still the question of why/whether rear seat mountings would have any impact on safety.

Sarah

Post by **PSL184** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:06 pm

We have 2 Moggies, and 2 young children, 5 and 2 yrs old. Both cars have rear inertia belts. Neither back seats are "cut" in any way at all and both cars take the baby and infant seats that we have which were bought from Mothercare...... What's a Vectra ???

Post by **PSL184** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:34 pm

Hopefully you should see a pic below of my rear belts. They mount to the body of the car and therefore will always pull backwards in the case of an accident so the rear seat mounting has no effect whatsoever on the safety aspect. ie the belts would still retain a child seat even if a rear seat was not fitted at all.... HTH, Rich<br>

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Post by **alex_holden** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:57 am

If you have a traveller that's a bit different in that it doesn't have a parcel shelf so the belt has to simply loop over the top of the seat back. I imagine that wouldn't be as strong as the saloon setup.

Post by **JimK** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:18 am

On our Traveller the reel is attached to the rear wheel-arch, with the belt passing over the top of the seat, as Alex mentions. It's a bit low for adults but fine for the child seat.

The boy was about two and a half when we got the trav, and his seat was a stage 1, I think (Maxi-Cosi Priori, anyway). When it's attached, it's held down by the bottom two mounts so the loop over the seat doesn't really come into it. Now he's older and in a stage 2-3 seat and it still looks fine to me.

I need to put belts in the back of the saloon in the next couple of weeks - Rich, it would be useful to see where you attached them to yours.

Post by **dunketh** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:18 pm

I read one comment on a previous thread that an inertia reel/baby seat combo wouldn't be effective because of the fixings of the rear seat...how so?

Nah, thats nonsense. The rear seats in a moggy fit pretty much the same as in any other small hatch.
As long as you have the wingbolts wound in at the back so the rear upright doesnt tilt forward they're as safe as any car.

Some really modern cars have special mounts that match up with certain car seats, maybe this is what was causing confusion? I'd imagine 99% of people just use a 'traditional' child seat attached via inertia seatbelts though.

Post by **PSL184** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:29 pm

JimK
I'll try and get some pics taken but if I forget remind me pls. Were off on Hols for a week so it maybe when I get back next weekend. But, basically, the inertia belt reel is bolted through the parcel shelf. The bottom mounting is through the rear floor under the back seat just below the little ledge that leads into the boot floor and the stalks are mounted centrally at approx the same level as the botttom mounts. Plates were welded to the body to spread the load but I guess you could just use large washers or the mountings that come with the kits have reinforced plates... HTH, Rich

Post by **polo2k** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:41 pm

If your after somthing ISOFIX then I think I might know somewhere that sells the brackets etc. not minor specific but from memory they should be pretty interchangeable.

Post by **shellgrotto** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:01 pm

Thanks everyone. I couldn't see why the rear seat mountings would make any difference, but then I'm not an expert. I'm reassured.

I had a look at the Securon site (mentioned as a source of belts) and am a bit puzzled as to what one I need...or any other recommendations for where to purchase?

Sarah

Post by **Vikki** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:02 pm

'...because otherwise I will be forced to sell my lovely 1964 Morris 1000.
Any suggestions?'

sell the kids instead?

Post by **ASL642** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:11 pm

The safety belts sold by any Morris supplier will fit your car - just inform them whether its a saloon or a traveller. We've fitted them to both without any problems. The kit comes with everything you need to fit. If your really worried you can always get a larger plate than supplied welded to the underside of the car, but its really not necessary.

Post by **les** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:10 pm

Don't forget the sign in the rear window: you then know people will drive safely when they see it.

Post by **alex_holden** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:53 pm

les wrote:Don't forget the sign in the rear window: you then know people will drive safely when they see it.

If you mean "baby on board" signs, their purpose is to let emergency services know after an accident that they should be looking for a baby in the wreckage...