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Negative earth wiper motor switch

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:39 pm
by New Bloke
I've converted to negative earth and all the sage advice seems to be you only need to flash the dynamo then switch the leads over on the battery, however, in my car we have this situation:
wiper motor
+-----------------2
E----/------------3
E------------------1

I've had to get a new motor that though it fits has slightly different terminal arrangements, so, I'm thinking I need to now wire the earth to the earth, then put a positive cable to ter 2 and switch another positive to get to ter 3.

The old motor is burned out, I believe by having a positive on ter 2 and a neg on ter3. I really don't want to burn this one out.

Re: Negative earth wiper motor switch

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:04 pm
by New Bloke
I don't think I explained myself very well there.

As I see it, when I switch the wiper switch on, it completes the connection between the terminal 1 (black and green wire) and the body. When the body was + this would have allowed a plus voltage on both terminals 1 and 2. Now the body is - it creates a dead short across the windings as terminal 1 is negative and terminal 2 is positive.

Am I right?

Cheers

Tim

Re: Negative earth wiper motor switch

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:05 pm
by amgrave
The wiper switching on a minor is done by switching the earth not the positive so you have a positive supply to the wiper motor all the time.

Re: Negative earth wiper motor switch

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:19 pm
by New Bloke
Thanks Amgrave,

I'm aware of that and wonder if that is in fact causing me the problem.

Cheers

Re: Negative earth wiper motor switch

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:51 pm
by bmcecosse
You don't do anything to the wiper motor or switch. You DO need to swap the coil connections and clean the points in the dizzy and the fuel pump.

Re: Negative earth wiper motor switch

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:59 am
by New Bloke
Thanks Guys but the fact remains, if I leave the switch as it is I will end up with a positive on terminal 3 and when I switch on, a negative on terminal 2. That's what must have blown my first motor. Because the motor is insulated from the body, the original setup would have seen positive on T1, and neg on T2 & 3. So I can't understand why a polarity change doesn't bugger up everyone's wiper motor????

Odd

Tim

Re: Negative earth wiper motor switch

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:48 pm
by New Bloke
Please ignore absolutely everything above this post, just wired it back up and it works

Doh

Re: Negative earth wiper motor switch

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:41 pm
by bmcecosse
The wiper motor has both field and comm windings - so it is not in any way affected by polarity.............