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engine number

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:22 pm
by mr.bird
heiio all,i presume this is the number stamped on the block by spark plug no 1 left hand side of the block.

Re: engine number

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:24 pm
by firedrake1942
yup

Re: engine number

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:25 pm
by firedrake1942
yup should be on a plate 'riveted' at each end

Re: engine number

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:02 pm
by mr.bird
the number i have is stamped into the steel of the block.which is kar7716 and near the base of the dip stick is a .plate with 1100 pressed into it?

Re: engine number

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:11 pm
by palacebear
Not sure about either of those. Assuming the original 948cc Minor engine is still fitted, the engine number should be either 9M-U-H (high compression) or 9M-U-L (low compression) followed by 6-digit number. Is there an engine number quoted on the V5 reg document? Does the cylinder block have '950' cast into it somewhere adjacent to the exhaust downpipe?

Re: engine number

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:14 pm
by firedrake1942
The 1100 is indicative that it is 1098 originally. I don't recognise the engine no.

I cannot find it on this list

http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/BM ... odesLO.htm

or this one

http://www.mg-cars.org.uk/news/news498.html

This what the engine no should be on.

Someone more expert will no doubt be along shortly....

Re: engine number

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:19 pm
by les
The 1100 on a thin aluminium plate, signifies a 1098cc engine capacity. There should be a raised casting number on the block. Can't help with the one stamped in it. As above the engine number is stamped into an aluminium strip, front left.

Re: engine number

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:33 pm
by mr.bird
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Re: engine number

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:36 pm
by philthehill
The 10ME engine has the closed circuit breathing system.

Re: engine number

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:37 pm
by les
Where did you find that number, mr bird?

Re: engine number

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:35 pm
by mr.bird
where firedrake 1942 has an alluminium plate riveted to the block near spark plug no 1 ihave kar 7716 stamped.

Re: engine number

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:38 am
by philthehill
I would suggest that the engine has been reconditioned and the number quoted is the reconditioning companies engine identification number.
A picture of the number and plate by the dip stick would be appreciated.
Phil

Re: engine number

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:01 am
by mr.bird
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Re: engine number

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:13 am
by firedrake1942
The 1100 / 950 plate, where present, is usually on the manifold side of the engine. I think Phil is probably right, a recon engine but not gold or silver seal i.e. non- manufacturer

Re: engine number

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:02 am
by philthehill
Thank you for posting the photos.
The stamped 1100 plate is in its correct position on the N/S front of the engine block and not the O/S of the engine and is not near the dipstick.
The pipe adjacent to the 1100 plate is the engine breather pipe and not the dipstick.
The stamped number is the recon engine number. Do you have an invoice for the reconditioning of the engine in the vehicle history file?

For general consumption:- What ever vehicle you have it is most important to have a full record of what has been done to the vehicle and parts purchased for future reference.

Phil

Re: engine number

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:18 am
by palacebear
Thanks for that info Phil. Although it doesn't apply to me (yet!) it would never occur to me that a recon engine from an 'independent' source would have an alien number on it!

Re: engine number

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:25 am
by philthehill
If I was an engine reconditioner I would always ensure that my own serial number was stamped on the block so that if any problems occurred the engine could be identified as having been reconditioned by me otherwise any old engine could be returned.
My Oselli modified 1275cc Midget block and my Manx Racing 1275cc cylinder head have both got their unique identification numbers stamped on them.
Phil

Re: engine number

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:55 am
by StillGotMy1stCar
A good chance your engine was reconditioned by KAR engine services in Barnstaple.
Regards John

Re: engine number

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:51 am
by StillGotMy1stCar
A quick search on here shows they also supply engines to Bull Motif.
Regards John

Re: engine number

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:57 am
by mr.bird
Thanks for all the replies and help,will carry on with the investigations now I've got a few leads.