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Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:11 pm
by CG75
My 1959 Traveller doesn't have a spare wheel aperture board, but my partner's 1968 Traveller does have one. Is my board just missing or did the earlier Travellers not have one at all? Thanks for any advice on this.
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Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:42 pm
by geoberni
I don't believe any Traveller had an original aperture board.
I can't see one on the Parts List and if you look at images of Travellers with the rear doors open, very few have the aperture covered and those that do are not a consistent material used.
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Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:09 pm
by simmitc
One of my Travellers from years ago had the cover fitted. It was a sturdy piece of fibreboard with a folded over metal edge; nothing like the flimsy bits of cardboard type material sold these days. Every Traveller that I have driven and all the timber kits that I have ever seen have included the little fillets that go on the rear posts specifically to hold the cover in place, so I suspect that the cover was a standard fitment from the factory. It's a shame that the open doors hide the fillets in the photos; one needs ot look slightly from one side.
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:57 pm
by geoberni
This is the only relevant page I can find in the AKD 3542; I've no idea what the wooden parts are that I've ringed, it seems to be a frame, but there's no sign of any cover...
You can see the curved shape of the aperture (Item 5)...
I've never had a Traveller but I'm intrigued to learn more, every day is a School Day and all that....
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Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:10 pm
by CG75
geoberni wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:42 pm
I don't believe any Traveller had an original aperture board.
I can't see one on the Parts List and if you look at images of Travellers with the rear doors open, very few have the aperture covered and those that do are not a consistent material used.traveller.JPG
How interesting! Thanks for the photos.
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:11 pm
by CG75
simmitc wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:09 pm
One of my Travellers from years ago had the cover fitted. It was a sturdy piece of fibreboard with a folded over metal edge; nothing like the flimsy bits of cardboard type material sold these days. Every Traveller that I have driven and all the timber kits that I have ever seen have included the little fillets that go on the rear posts specifically to hold the cover in place, so I suspect that the cover was a standard fitment from the factory. It's a shame that the open doors hide the fillets in the photos; one needs ot look slightly from one side.
Off to see if my car has the little fillets - if it does, I think I should get an aperture board!
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:22 pm
by ManyMinors
The cover was certainly factory fitted from around the early '60s I reckon. Probably at the same time as the Duotone trim was introduced? Any Traveller which has the retaining fillets fitted will have had the cover to begin with, which was exactly as Simon describes it above. In the parts book - and the picture above taken from it - these fillets are items 14 and 15. AFA 872 and 873 I think. Travellers were often hard worked utility cars and those boards quickly became worn/damaged and once they didn't fit properly were quickly discarded.
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:49 pm
by King Kenny
Excuse the Mrs in her youth. This is my Traveller in around 1882. I had just fitted green corduroy panel covers. You can see the original cover board. although it may be upside down. It was a piece of hardboard with a folded metal edge on one edge and a finger hole on the other.
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Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:09 pm
by geoberni
This is really interesting.... I wonder why the retaining fillets are shown on that diagram but not the board
I've looks at what I think are all the other likely pages, such as Carpets, Trim etc and i can't see anything shown.
It must've been a frustrating life being on the parts counter at a dealership, so many things not where you'd expect to see them...
Can anyone explain what they strange arrangement is that I've ringed on the illustration, it makes no sense to me...?
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:28 pm
by King Kenny
The assembly you have ringed fits behind the lower metal panel behind the rear bumpers and holds the two side assemblies together.
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:53 pm
by simmitc
It's often referred to as "the ladder rack", not to be confused with roof fittings on LCVs. Used as described by Kenny, the metal panel is pinned to the wooden frame, and the pins then hidden by the quadrant shaped draught excluder.
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:11 pm
by geoberni
simmitc wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:53 pm
It's often referred to as "the ladder rack", not to be confused with roof fittings on LCVs. Used as described by Kenny, the metal panel is pinned to the wooden frame, and the pins then hidden by the quadrant shaped draught excluder.
King Kenny wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:28 pm
The assembly you have ringed fits behind the lower metal panel behind the rear bumpers and holds the two side assemblies together.
That explains why I've never seen it. They could have drawn it a bit lower down the page, then it might have made sense....
I wonder why the 2 little middle bits have no index number.
You'd think there would be a 'Rear Bottom Block - Middle' quantity 2, with a number like AFA 474 (I checked, there isn't
)
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:11 pm
by firedrake1942
[quote="King Kenny" post_id=691817 time=1692107349 user_id=13200]
Excuse the Mrs in her youth. This is my Traveller in around 1882. I had just fitted green corduroy panel covers. You can see the original cover board. although it may be upside down. It was a piece of hardboard with a folded metal edge on one edge and a finger hole on the other.IMG s1983 mar Large.jpeg
[/quote]
A very early Traveller indeed.... :D :D
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:43 pm
by CG75
Thanks everyone! My car doesn’t have the fillets so no board…although, as the wood was replaced some years ago, it may have had the fillets & board originally.
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:44 pm
by CG75
King Kenny wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:49 pm
Excuse the Mrs in her youth. This is my Traveller in around 1882. I had just fitted green corduroy panel covers. You can see the original cover board. although it may be upside down. It was a piece of hardboard with a folded metal edge on one edge and a finger hole on the other.IMG s1983 mar Large.jpeg
Love the green corduroy panels!
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:49 pm
by taupe
Esm stock them I think most travellers had them from factory not sure about S2 though?... Mine all have them...
Spare Wheel Aperture Board (Traveller) code:T31
£40.67 (ex. VAT)
£48.80 (inc. VAT)
They are shown in the parts list ADA4006 ...Plate P1
Taupe
Re: Spare wheel aperture board
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:06 am
by geoberni
taupe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:49 pm
They are shown in the parts list ADA4006 ...Plate P1
Oh, silly me, like I said previously, it must've been a confusing life being in the Dealer Parts Dept
It's not in the 'Body Service Parts' AKD 3542, which incidentally is where the heater system is for crying out loud....Why?
It's in the 'Mechanical Service Parts' AKD 3541 under Road Wheels.....
Thanks for that Taupe
Every day's a school day.
Let me return the favour...
not sure about S2 though?
I just looked through my 'Original Morris Minor' and on p47 there is a photo of a S2 Traveller rear with the caption
'The spare wheel compartment on the Traveller mirrors that of the saloons, remaining 'open' on the SII Traveller'.